Shield guys.

[Elyenora Westknight]

How the heck do you kill them? Only way I've found that does so is the chainsaw... surely it's not a melee only enemy. Hitting their shield changes the colors, but that doesn't seem to do anyhting. I think i've gotten lucky with a glory kill once by spamming melee... but yeah. These guys are super annoying.

Also, please fix the utterly terrible navigation system. IE no minimap, and a terrible 3D map that is borderline useless. It makes combing maps eye stabbingly painful.

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by Traeus:

So, I dunno if my game is bugged or what... but I've yet to be able to break the shields. I've unloaded the entire mag of the rifle, half the plasma capacity, an explosive round from the shotgun and a grenade all in a row and the shield did not break. I'm still completely unsure how you're intented to deal with these guys in super tight corridors other than the chainsaw. I guess you're ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if there's more than one and you're out of fuel.

The assault rifle won't work in overloading shields, it's just too weak for that. Place explosive shots slightly behind them so they eat some splash damage + do the same with grenades until you get the plasma gun.

Btw. a secret plasma gun can be found on level two so if you don't use the upgrade bot right away you can backtracks and develop the stun shot for your plasma rifle BEFORE encountering any shielded enemies.

Also on level 2 the chainsaw is a perfectly viable strategy against them because killing a shielded guy only costs one fuel and you won't meet bigger enemies until the next map so chainsaw away! Level 2 also has a lot of fuel so finding more won't be a problem.

[Elyenora Westknight]

Man, I almost want a refund because the shield guys just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ruin the game (moreso than the utterly terrible level design and navigation). They make the big guys on level 3 almost impossible to deal with because they are INVINCIBLE. I still have yet to have any of the strategies you guys suggest be at all effective. The plasma rifle does nothing to them. The shields can't be taken down. I finally got the stun thing, and because it stuns for a random period of time it's useless. Sometimes the shields go right back up.

On top of this they do far more damage than any other enemy in the game. Like, kill me in 3-4 seconds from full health full shields.

I gave up on the first big guy fight because a shield guy just appears and rapes me while I try and dodge the big dude. It's BS. After 3-4 deaths I gave up. I'm just not sure how someone thought these guys were a good idea.

[CheechWizard]

I think you're to young to die.

[Zaxx]

Originally posted by Traeus:

Man, I almost want a refund because the shield guys just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ruin the game (moreso than the utterly terrible level design and navigation). They make the big guys on level 3 almost impossible to deal with because they are INVINCIBLE. I still have yet to have any of the strategies you guys suggest be at all effective. The plasma rifle does nothing to them. The shields can't be taken down. I finally got the stun thing, and because it stuns for a random period of time it's useless. Sometimes the shields go right back up.

On top of this they do far more damage than any other enemy in the game. Like, kill me in 3-4 seconds from full health full shields.

I gave up on the first big guy fight because a shield guy just appears and rapes me while I try and dodge the big dude. It's BS. After 3-4 deaths I gave up. I'm just not sure how someone thought these guys were a good idea.

Seems like you have a serious job ahead of you in "getting gud" or just lower the difficulty.

Anyway the level design is great and I never had any problem in using the automap.

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Traeus:

Unless you get a jump boost later in the game that I don't have yet (I'm only on mission 2), then no, no you can't. Also, tight corridors would also prevent that.

Hmm, trying to visualize where you are runnign into these guys...

Best bet is grenades I think for your situation. If you can get it just behind them, they should all splatter.

[RockerFox]

Originally posted by Traeus:

Unless you get a jump boost later in the game that I don't have yet (I'm only on mission 2), then no, no you can't. Also, tight corridors would also prevent that.

You do get an upgrade once you get to argent tower that gives you a large double jump (please don't "omg, spoilers!" my ass, you pretty much asked where it was.)

Also found that the chainsaw always, always works well. Costs 1 fuel and you cut through it no problem, get a ton of ammo and then move on to the next guy and with how often you get chainsaw ammo it's pretty easy to deal with them.

The explosive shotgun when upgraded also works well when you put it slightly to the left or right of them and hit the with the splash. On top of that you do get frag grenades in the very first mission so really it's not that hard to just put it slightly.

Never had this much toruble with the shield guys, i always just kept moving and hoenstly if one got in the way for more than a few seconds i just would whip the great communicator out and ruin them. Seriously, if your having trouble with the shield guys i don't honestly know how you are going to get through the rest of the game.

[Elyenora Westknight]

Once I got past the last shield guy in that mission (which is pretty early on), I finished it without dying again. Not really having trouble on the rest of the enemies, just the shield guys.

Also, I don't know what you guys are talking about, exploding shotgun thing doesn't do much to them in the first round. even if hitting behind them, it doesn't even stagger them so I can glory kill. I guess it's just chainsaw for them, which means I can't use it on anything else in case they show up.

Naw, not going to complain about spoilers. The story is yawnworthy at this point, the game is really about the gameplay. And really, besides the utter bs that shield guys are, and the bad level design/terrible map making navigation the biggest pain in the ass ever, the rest is fairly fun I suppose. Nothing amazing, but fun.

Oh, and the UI could use some tweaks, but it's definitely far from unusable. Like, one thing I don't know, is there are little red notches, or bars under my ammo. What are those?

[Skankhunt42]

Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.

[Zaxx]

Here's a very easy trick: the combat shotgun's explosive shot causes the enemies to lose their balance for a few short seconds which is plenty of time to get close and finish them off. Shielded dudes become rather easy prey thanks to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqO1C4pFwdM

[SomeUnregPunk]

Use a grenade.

Equipment Grenades bounce off walls, ceilings and objects before exploding in a set period of time. So you could use your enviroment to lob a grenade such that it bouces off something and lands directly behind them before they explode.

Weapon grenades need a little more finese. Shotgun grenade can be done as long as you use your environment to your advantage and not just fire it at their shield. Plasma grenades stuns them which makes them easy to kill after that.

There is also an artifact that can power up your grenades/holograms which makes them more useful.

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the other way is to just move more. Use your environment and make those demons work to kill you instead of standing your ground and killing them as they come to you. You'll find yourself surviving the harder battles with the tougher foes more easily if you do.