Better than Brutal Doom?

[KorvaMeister]

From the gameplay I watched this game seems E rated compared to Brutal Doom, am I wrong?

[Mr. Pharaoh]

Nope, Brutal doom is better but imagine if this version was open to better modding and not just this snapmap thingy.

[(ADORA)ble 🌈👊]

I guess brutal doom is better if for
Gore is what makes a game good to you

[ULTRA]

Nah, Brutal Doom is better in every regard except for art asset quality

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by Usmovers_02:

I guess brutal doom is better if for
Gore is what makes a game good to you

Pretty much anything that made this game good was stolen from Brutal Doom: bloody executions, more detailed gore, an actually useful chainsaw, berserk pack enabling certain instakills that aren't just PunchOut bops, health incentives for additional violence. The only way it is really better as far as action is not having reloading, probably the most "original" design idea they had. They most likely did this because it's not a typical feature of Serious Sam or other arena shooters like Shadow Warrior 2013, which they seem to have taken a page from in designing creature encounters and even visual design.

[Yorkin]

In terms of violence, Brutal Doom has enemies falling to their knees and trying to hold their guts in, screaming/moaning, or losing their legs and crawling around (also while moaning), and a lot more blood and gore splashing on the walls and ceiling. Plus, there are can be a lot more enemies on screen at one time in Brutal Doom, allowing for far more violence at any given time.

However, 2016 Doom has more graphic/audio fidelity and those glory kills literally puts the violence right in your face. Ripping jaws off, limbs off, organs out then shoving said organ down throat. Breaking bones/necks, stomping heads. Lots of stuff. And of course gibbing is back. Wish gibbing was in more modern games these days, it's a shame.

When it comes down to it, I guess Brutal Doom is more violent. But saying that it makes Doom 2016 look like it's rated E for Everyone is just incorrect. I'd say that it's actually a very close call and I definitely wouldn't argue with anyone who disagreed with my saying Brutal Doom is the more violent game.

In the end though, both games are so over the top and ridiculous that the violence is just goofy fun. A whole heck of a lot of fun :D

[KorvaMeister]

Yep, Brutal Doom is my favorite game

[Zaxx]

The correct answer is that this game is different. If you like Doom you'll like it and if you appreciate game mechanics you'll find that it does a lot of things much-much better than Brutal Doom.

No, you don't get pointlessly fetishized, overly long portions of violence but you get a game where "brutality" is a game mechanic and never stops the action.

[Kain]

Well... Doom stole a lot of ideas from Brutal Doom it's almost shameful that there isn't a shrine for the mod creator.

Basically Doom have shinnier graphics, but they play very similar.

Also, Brutal Doom is aharder game.

[EpsilonEagle256]

Originally posted by Kain:

it's almost shameful that there isn't a shrine for the mod creator.

The mod creator is kind of a ♥♥♥♥ though, just saying

[Kain]

Originally posted by EpsilonEagle256:

Originally posted by Kain:

it's almost shameful that there isn't a shrine for the mod creator.

The mod creator is kind of a ♥♥♥♥ though, just saying

He's a major ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but a talented one, we can't deny that.

[ageres]

Originally posted by EpsilonEagle256:

The mod creator is kind of a ♥♥♥♥ though, just saying

Why?

[Jodeth]

Both games are great fun, though I prefer Project Brutality. It's basically a Brutal Doom Plus. Right now with all the major launch day issues in this new Doom, it's ideal to set it aside and wait for a patch from the developer. Play PB in the meantime.

[Kain]

Originally posted by KT JoDETH:

Both games are great fun, though I prefer Project Brutality. It's basically a Brutal Doom Plus. Right now with all the major launch day issues in this new Doom, it's ideal to set it aside and wait for a patch from the developer. Play PB in the meantime.

Did they release another update? Last one I remember was from last year.

[TheMysteriousGray]

The new Doom takes Brutal Doom's concepts (added alt fires for weapons, melee kills, gore, enhanced enemies) and perfects them, in my opinion. The combat in Brutal Doom is clunky and without flow because of all the new attacks, the reloading, and other ♥♥♥♥ that often breaks the pace, while Doom 4 incorporates anything useful in Brutal Doom into combat whilst dropping everything else that's less useful, like reloading weapons, the kick, that disorienting dodge roll, etc. The result is a much more polished and streamlined game that still manages to have a lot of depth in spite of the gory and dumb exterior, whereas Brutal Doom's main gimmick wears off before you're halfway done with just about any WAD. My favorite part about it is that Doom 2016 isn't afraid to be subtle from time to time, having empty corridors with a neat rendition of Nuclear Plant playing in the background as you search for another kill or a secret (the levels are designed BEAUTIFULLY, in both aesthetics and structure, by the way), before ratcheting the music up as you get to the killin' and the smashin' with the legions of Hell. Brutal Doom does little other than scream in your face and throw as much over the top and shocking ♥♥♥♥ at you that it can, to the point where it becomes exhausting rather than exhilarating. If Doom is like masturbation to some people, Doom 2016 is the slow stroke while Brutal Doom is someone forcefully tying your ♥♥♥♥ to a jackhammer. The enemies are also more fun to fight, instead of just damage-spamming ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with permanent fastmonsters enabled. Their attacks are varied, some are just as agile as you are, they're tough to fight, and you can fight lots of them. Some actually require strategic thinking to overcome, like the charging Pinky who's only vulnerable from his back, or the Mancubus who is heavily armored in all but his tiny face and gut, requiring precise aim to deal max damage to. Brutal Doom's enemies, in trying to enhance them and make them more complicated to fight, have ended up becoming dumbed-down from their original counterparts, with the best strategy usually being just blowing them away with your largest weapon instead of picking the most effective weapon (repeating weapons on Cacodemons, Chainsaw for Pinkies, rocket launcher for Mancubus) and understanding and avoiding their attacks. There's still a bit of that in Brutal Doom, but it's reduced and downplayed in favor of mindless slaughter using overloud and uninteresting weapons that range from killing everything far too easily (chaingun) or being stupidly underpowered and useless against anything not already near-death (rocket launcher). Speaking of, the weapons in Doom 2016 are also improved from Brutal Doom, with much more versatility and less emphasis on noise and screen shake to try and sell the weapons as bigger than they really are. The reloading mechanic isn't incorporated, which means you no longer have to stop in the middle of a firefight to put more ammo in your gun before you can go back to the death parade, and the alt-fire modes for the weapons are actually interesting and useful, compared to BD's fairly common and frankly rather boring alts (seriously, TWO weapons with iron-sights? this isn't Battlefield, it's DOOM! go crazy with the alt-fires like Doom 2016 did! You have a plasmagun flamethrower already, come up with some more insane ♥♥♥♥ like that!).

TL:DR Doom 4 took concepts that were introduced in BD and made them better. I'd play the former a hundred times without ever touching the latter again, because it's simply obsolete.

[Drhankey]

Originally posted by Savant:

Nah, Brutal Doom is better in every regard except for art asset quality

*looks up brutal doom*
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So basically the old doom version modded? Outdated as ♥♥♥♥, yet "better in every way". Lol fanboys got their heads up their arses...