DOOM
Doc May 19, 2016 @ 3:01pm
[SPOILER!] Final boss plot hole?
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What I didn't understand about the Spider Mastermind was that it was fully decked out in armor and laser weapons and whatnot, while the entire game (if you read the data logs and looked at the scenery in the levels) tries to explain why the demons seem to be armed with extremely dangerous weapons developed BY the UAC itself.

The Revenants, for example, are humans where they had implants grafted into their skulls to allow the shoulder-mounted rockets to fire at will. The Lazarus Wave made sure the equipment was imbedded into his (or her) flesh while the subject was transformed into a demon. The Cyberdemon (or Baalgar demon) was first discovered as a lifeless husk given new life thanks to the incredible Argent- and UAC technology.

Having said all of that, why does the Spider Mastermind seem to have gotten the same treatment? When you read the data log about the Spider Mastermind, it specifically states that the UAC has never encountered an Aranea Imperatrix (the "actual" name of a Spider Mastermind) before, so the UAC never could've modified the demon to begin with.
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Frowny May 19, 2016 @ 3:03pm 
DOOMguy would upon reading that simply smash this thread for to much thinking...
Doc May 19, 2016 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by Aquila:
DOOMguy would upon reading that simply smash this thread for to much thinking...

I believe he would, yes :D
Snow May 19, 2016 @ 3:05pm 
Spidermastermind in this version is "coalition" between 2 beings. The demon and in this case Olivia, who has robotic implants. Hence why he has the implants.

At least that is how I understood it from the pda log.

"When the gate is opened, in the fourth age, when we have risen and the masters have shown us the path, she will be come. A great blessing will be given to the key holder, for they will become one with the master, and in that holy union the power of the dark priest will be unleashed upon the heretics of the Penumbral Plain. The Aranea Imperatix. Carried in the mind of all who follow, fed from the blood of those who fell, made with bone of rock, iron, steel and sinew. A mighty god to rule over all other gods. One become two become legion.""
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Doc May 19, 2016 @ 3:06pm 
Originally posted by Lord Commander:
Spidermastermind in this version is "coalition" between 2 beings. The demon and in this case Olivia, who has robotic implants. Hence why he has the implants.

Ah, so we are kinda sorta fighting the "mastermind" Olivia Pierce herself, then? That's actually a good reasoning behind it.
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Fang May 19, 2016 @ 3:08pm 
Demons are hard workers.

The Imps gathered all pieces of scrap of broken weapons and armor left behind by the Doom Marine.

The Pinkies pushed the gears into place.

The Revenants welded and clicked it all together, like they did their own bodies.

The Hell Barons lifted the giant Spider Mastermind with their brute strength, and placed him on top of the new Metal G- first ever giant gun mechanism created by the Demons.

It's all their own work. They knew they had to go all out to defeat that arrogant green bastard.
Snow May 19, 2016 @ 3:08pm 
Originally posted by Lightning Machine:
Originally posted by Lord Commander:
Spidermastermind in this version is "coalition" between 2 beings. The demon and in this case Olivia, who has robotic implants. Hence why he has the implants.

Ah, so we are kinda sorta fighting the "mastermind" Olivia Pierce herself, then?

Not entirely, the demon has fused with her, but I believe that the demon is the dominant one in that amalgamation.

Tho it is just how I see it, might not be true whatsoever lol. But, the pda log is hinting at something similiar.
Last edited by Snow; May 19, 2016 @ 3:09pm
Doc May 19, 2016 @ 3:12pm 
Originally posted by Fang:
Demons are hard workers.

The Imps gathered all pieces of scrap of broken weapons and armor left behind by the Doom Marine.

The Pinkies pushed the gears into place.

The Revenants welded and clicked it all together, like they did their own bodies.

The Hell Barons lifted the giant Spider Mastermind with their brute strength, and placed him on top of the new Metal G- first ever giant gun mechanism created by the Demons.

It's all their own work. They knew they had to go all out to defeat that arrogant green bastard.

A weapon to surpass Doomguy.



Originally posted by Lord Commander:

Not entirely, the demon has fused with her, but I believe that the demon is the dominant one in that amalgamation.

Tho it is just how I see it, might not be true whatsoever lol. But, the pda log is hinting at something similiar.

Yeah, I also think that'll be the case. It kind of bugged me since I finished the game today, so I thought to make a thread about it :)
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