R.I.P Pirates

[Trout]

It was confirmed (re-confirmed when new info) that the game uses a DRM called Deruvo, which is the DRM that stops the new Tomb Raider from getting cracked. Stopped by Reddit and many were complaining about the fact that this game uses a DRM. Let's just grab some popcorn, sit down and see how everything progresses with Deruvo. If nothing, rest in peace piracy.

[Wisebl00d]

Originally posted by MRQZombieThug:

consumers should use reputable sources to research a title before buying it.

Like IGN?

[Bunshi]

Not sure why people are having this conversation here,first of all they did crack denuvo,and second of all they said the will stop cracking the games to see how it impactes the gaming industry for a while,there is info out there on how to do it yourself if you are so inclined.

[SleeprunnerInc]

Pirating an online game does not mean the devs lose money.
You only used money to MAKE ONE PRODUCT which then was copied and sold again and again.

Pirating can be good and bad.
Good pirating is testing if your PC can actually run it (Recommended specs and such won't always help nor tell the truth)
Good pirating is also to test HOW TRUE the game reviews, screenshots etc are.
Demo games DO NOT often show what the game truly is as they are tinier versions that use less power etc to run perfectly to get people to buy the game.

Bad pirating is just taking the game/Movie/CD etc etc etc, burning it on to a disk and selling it.
Trying to gain money from it.
And getting a game or such forever.

HOWEVER, arquably you could say YOUTUBE is a PIRATE nest since you can listen and watch anything there FOR FREE.
And you can download off of it too.
So technically youtube is the same as pirating.

Going to a store and PHYSICALLY stealing a game is WORSE than DOWNLOADING it.
Why?
The manufacturer looses money on both the packaging, the time spent making that one, the salary the workers get paid with, the time spent developing it and making sure it works and so on.

Downloading a game/Cd/Movie etc however doesn't physically steal the original copy.
It copies the copy of the original game/movie etc.
Why?
The original copy is always in the developers hands and the ones we are sold are just copies of it.

[[OH] Cogglesz]

Bring out great games and Piracy is rarely a problem. Seen many people mention they'd pirate to see if it runs well, thats something i'm even guilty of before. Of course then you've got the people who'd pirate games but never buy them due to never having the money in the first place. Would you even count that as a lost sale? It was impossible to be sold to them in the first place.

I hate the hell outta DRM though. Deruvo hasn't had a good name in the past couple years, The thing is even Deruvo is crackable and probably will be cracked in later months/years.

This isn't really an arguement to have with fellow PC gamers, the majority of us understand what piracy is and how it effects us, I know there is probably a$$holes who couldn't give one ♥♥♥♥ about game developement but when something amazing comes out, we've got to show support to those people in hopes we get something even better afterwords.

Sucks it uses DRM though, Pirates will pick this game up one day somehow, they did with Lords of the Fallen and Dragon age 3 and once that happens it'l only be us people who bought the game that suffer from the side effects of the DRM.

[RAZORLIGHT]

Originally posted by Posivated:

Originally posted by RAZORLIGHT:

yep thats the reason
thats why my steam library is as empty as your brain.

I see you telling people to be intelligent but you apparently haven't taken the advice yourself. When someone reads something you say they have to read it real slow because it's as if a child wrote it. They way you attempt to form sentences is very similar to someone in the 5th grade, your lack of facts is also very apparant even though you are yelling at people here to look at the facts. Everything you have said here, A. Sounds like a child wrote it, B. Highly unintellient and hard to read (As a child would write), and C. You provide no facts to any arguement you have attempted to have in this thread (BTW a thread is what this is, not sure if you would know what a thread is judging by your previous comments).

you should reread your own post before beeing a grammar nazi :)

[Neutron]

Originally posted by Nasher:

Originally posted by OGNeutron:

Yep, only reason other games don't use it, because of the cost to buy the licence for it!

Yea, plus it puts people off buying the game. In the end I doubt it gets them more profits. Most of the people who pirate games won't buy them anyway.

No, the only reason is cost, I heard its in the millions to hire it out!

[Shanji]

Originally posted by mcgeehe:

Pirating is for those who can't afford the game. Steam's refund policy makes the idea of buying a game that doesn't work a non issue. In the past I could see where people might have "borrowed" the game to make sure it ran good, then buy it once they could confirm it did.

At the same time wasting time and resources on developing silly DRM is also pointless. Those resources could be spent on making the game better, which would likely translate into more sales. People that pirate generally won't buy the game at all, so really a pirated version is not a lost sale.

CDPR understood this, and look at how well Witcher 3 sold and all the praise it received. Not even a hint of DRM in that game. (Well Steam is technically DRM so I guess it has that, but the GOG version is 100% DRM free)

DRM games want to create a platform of monopoly, look at all those Origin exclusive games, and the abusive "allways linked to something else to start games" for me the best way to sell games is let the market flow, Without DRM you can have your game in every single game market website, and you are not locked to a stupid platform.

[Cosmo 🐲]

Originally posted by RAZORLIGHT:

Originally posted by Handsome Jack:

Funny fact : this thread, about piracy is only commented by ppl that does not own the game

yep i already stated, i dont support denuvo at all
supporting it will make things just worse for us players/consumers
but "not so intelligent" people are not realising this because they are small minded :(

I dont get it, whats so bad about it? does it collect data on you, like facebook and google does? (i guess your not using those aswell) or do it have keyloggers or other stuff that might harm your system ? (like manny pirated games do)

[Nasher]

Originally posted by OGNeutron:

Originally posted by Nasher:

Yea, plus it puts people off buying the game. In the end I doubt it gets them more profits. Most of the people who pirate games won't buy them anyway.

No, the only reason is cost, I heard its in the millions to hire it out!

Sounds like a bit of a false economy to me then.

Originally posted by Handsome Jack:

I dont get it, whats so bad about it? does it collect data on you, like facebook and google does? (i guess your not using those aswell) or do it have keyloggers or other stuff that might harm your system ? (like manny pirated games do)

Well for a start, it stops people modding the game. Because the encryption means you can't edit anything. There will never be any mods for Doom 4. The very reason the old Doom games are still played...

[SleeprunnerInc]

Originally posted by Handsome Jack:

Originally posted by RAZORLIGHT:

yep i already stated, i dont support denuvo at all
supporting it will make things just worse for us players/consumers
but "not so intelligent" people are not realising this because they are small minded :(

I dont get it, whats so bad about it? does it collect data on you, like facebook and google does? (i guess your not using those aswell) or do it have keyloggers or other stuff that might harm your system ? (like manny pirated games do)

Well technically they are monitoring your computer and get all the files they want off you.

[Wisebl00d]

Originally posted by mcgeehe:

CDPR understood this, and look at how well Witcher 3 sold and all the praise it received. Not even a hint of DRM in that game. (Well Steam is technically DRM so I guess it has that, but the GOG version is 100% DRM free)

Yeah, all those Witcher 3 sales lost to no DRM and pirating... oh wait.

[Neutron]

Originally posted by Nasher:

Originally posted by OGNeutron:

No, the only reason is cost, I heard its in the millions to hire it out!

Sounds like a bit of a false economy to me then.

Yeah, I don't get why they charge so high, could get nearly every company paying for it, if it was cheaper!

[Kinren]

Denuvo is not DRM it does not digitally manage anything. Its anti tamper and is hard or impossible to defeat. I am glad they are using it and hope it becomes mainstream and even is affordable in the future for indie devs.

[SleeprunnerInc]

Originally posted by Kinren:

Denuvo is not DRM it does not digitally manage anything. Its anti tamper and is hard or impossible to defeat. I am glad they are using it and hope it becomes mainstream and even is affordable in the future for idie devs.

I'ts been cracked already.

[EthicalPixel]

I Hate Denuvo BUT rip pirates
btw
How many butthurt pirates in this thread do you think?

Originally posted by Trout:

It was confirmed (re-confirmed when new info) that the game uses a DRM called Deruvo, which is the DRM that stops the new Tomb Raider from getting cracked. Stopped by Reddit and many were complaining about the fact that this game uses a DRM. Let's just grab some popcorn, sit down and see how everything progresses with Deruvo. If nothing, rest in peace piracy.