Consoles have Dynamic Resolution Scaling... WE DONT

[kalhamm3r]

YES, this is a huge problem to me. I feel that a tech like this should be readily available to us on PC, as an option to smooth out game play... any thoughts on this? it's REALLY a nice piece of tech that has reared it's head recently seemingly. I have never heard of it before this current gen of console. I just want to hear the thoughts of the PC public on the matter. thanks.

[JT]

G-SYNC: does something I cannot do, which is modify the refresh rate to match game FPS

DRS: can do what I can already do myself via options menu

yeah, totally parallel.

I don't give a good ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if DRS makes its way into games so long as I get to turn it off cause me and my "half-brain" know just how powerful my hardware is and what it can handle and I get the extra bonus of not having some software constantly trying to figure out when would be a good time to just start flipping switches until it meets its arbitrary standard.

If you have no idea what your PC can do, then by all means DRS is a god-send.

[Hinsonator]

Escrito originalmente por TehGuy:

G-SYNC: does something I cannot do, which is modify the refresh rate to match game FPS

DRS: can do what I can already do myself via options menu

yeah, totally parallel.

I don't give a good ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if DRS makes its way into games so long as I get to turn it off cause me and my "half-brain" know just how powerful my hardware is and what it can handle and I get the extra bonus of not having some software constantly trying to figure out when would be a good time to just start flipping switches until it meets its arbitrary standard.

If you have no idea what your PC can do, then by all means DRS is a god-send.

Jeez, if we have half brains then i wonder how much grey matter he has.

[kalhamm3r]

^^^ hahahaha.... are you serious? every post you lay to the public makes you look WAY more stupid. "there is no potential in PC gaming"....hahaha.... you are a company ♥♥♥♥♥ obviously... if not, then damn you are stupid. lmfao..... i guess we should all "lower game resolution" ourselves (which we all do wanyway). you are always consistent with "we"..... you think it's "everyone"... it's just you. you are obviously damage conrol. "why dont you just play with lower resolutions"?? and like YOu said.. you are a "WE"... you are a corporate entity...

[Dyshes]

Yeah, Nvidia have this option for any game looong ago. I mean, DSR.

[Hinsonator]

Escrito originalmente por KryoSage:

you are a corporate entity...

...Says the guy that wants to force some potentially needless tech on us.

[JT]

Escrito originalmente por Dyshes:

Yeah, Nvidia have this option for any game looong ago. I mean, DSR.

not the same thing as OP described

Escrito originalmente por KryoSage:

^^^ hahahaha.... are you serious? every post you lay to the public makes you look WAY more stupid. "there is no potential in PC gaming"....hahaha.... you are a company ♥♥♥♥♥ obviously... if not, then damn you are stupid. lmfao..... i guess we should all "lower game resolution" ourselves (which we all do wanyway). you are always consistent with "we"..... you think it's "everyone"... it's just you. you are obviously damage conrol. "why dont you just play with lower resolutions"?? and like YOu said.. you are a "WE"... you are a corporate entity...

Alright, look: I've gone through and offered my thoughts on the matter and all you've done is gone through and called me varying synonyms for "idiot" without providing anything other than "U JUS CANNAE C DA BENEFITS"

there is no debate here, this isn't even a conversation.

Lay it out, right here, why anyone should really give a damn.

[Hinsonator]

Escrito originalmente por TehGuy:

Escrito originalmente por Dyshes:

Yeah, Nvidia have this option for any game looong ago. I mean, DSR.

not the same thing as OP described

Escrito originalmente por KryoSage:

^^^ hahahaha.... are you serious? every post you lay to the public makes you look WAY more stupid. "there is no potential in PC gaming"....hahaha.... you are a company ♥♥♥♥♥ obviously... if not, then damn you are stupid. lmfao..... i guess we should all "lower game resolution" ourselves (which we all do wanyway). you are always consistent with "we"..... you think it's "everyone"... it's just you. you are obviously damage conrol. "why dont you just play with lower resolutions"?? and like YOu said.. you are a "WE"... you are a corporate entity...

Alright, look: I've gone through and offered my thoughts on the matter and all you've done is gone through and called me varying synonyms for "idiot" without providing anything other than "U JUS CANNAE C DA BENEFITS"

there is no debate here, this isn't even a conversation.

Lay it out, right here, why anyone should really give a damn.

+1, OP doesn't know what he's talking about.

[Dr. Venkman]

This conversation is kinda funny!

In fact:

V-Sync is technique against screen tearing. This effect appears when your Rig creates MORE frames than your Monitor can handle. (U have to use when your Rig have too much power)

DSR is for using a HIGHER resolution than your Monitor can handle. (U can use this when your Rig have enough power.)

Dynamic Resolution Scaling is a method to smooth you frames to 60fps. The consoles have to use this because they have not enough power to calculate all the details. (The consoles have to use this because they have not enough power.)

Using Dynamic Resolution on a Screen 3 meters away from can be okay. But you would barf when u sit right in front of the screen. (Try to look a youtube video in )
That gives me imagination of using this technique in VR games gives u massive headaches... Maybe your eyes implodes.

As example how modern games have to natively scale on current Gen consoles:
http://m.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS4+vs.+Xbox+One+Native+Resolutions+and+Framerates

I can´t imagine that a 400$ console overruns a 250$ Graphic card, espacially after seeing the wild resoultion and frame sets above...

[Hinsonator]

Actually i just realised, the OP says "we" but he calls PC gamers elitist, doesn't that make him an elitist too?

[Hinsonator]

Escrito originalmente por qhristoff:

I suddenly feel less bad for slipping into arguments with Kryosage in the past.

He does this to everyone who disagrees with him.

I guess that's not suprising, this is your typical console scrub behavior.

[Raven Wolfe]

Escrito originalmente por Hinsonator:

Escrito originalmente por MRQZombieThug:

Frame-rate dips or dynamic resolutions?

I suppose consoles get the majority of the resources, so PC versions aren't always launched optimized, it seems.

If you mean DRS, any type of engine tech that improves the user's experience can't be bad though, right?

I mean FPS dips.

Also while that is true, having a game or program push your machine too far is a good incentive to upgrade your machine, if we have features like dynamic resolutions then that incentive goes out the window. While it is good to be able to play games like Elite Dangerious, Star Sitizen, PS2, Fortresscraft, etc in machines that are around as powerful as the current gen consoles if not slightly less, it would be better to just upgrade your hardware as the devs would not have to cater so much for those with lower end machines.

Right, I agree. Sure, PC gaming shouldn't have to require the highest end machine but it's not good if things stagnate, either.

[MrMuffinz]

Consoles generally have post processing to scale with the dynamic resolution as well.
Lots of stuff to hide the resolution change, where as a PC player has to tweak a ♥♥♥♥ ton when they change between resolutions to get a image closer to the higher resolution.

It isn't a Dynamic Reolution change situation, but Dark Souls 3 on Xbox One (900p) looks pretty much exactly the same as the PS4 (1080p) version, and the only visual anomalies I could notice is shimmering on very distant trees.

Then again, 900p isn't that bad of a resolution, but still; good post-process can make even low resolution look good if done right, but PC doesn't have the development initiative to create such a technology.

[Hinsonator]

Escrito originalmente por qhristoff:

Escrito originalmente por Hinsonator:

I guess that's not suprising, this is your typical console scrub behavior.

? But I'm one of the PC proponents...

And if you could provide evidence illustrating my "typical" behaviour, I'd like to see it.

I made that post in *SUPPORT* of you.

So, why don't you pass the , you seem to have it all on your side of the table.

Kryosage has been baiting and ♥♥♥♥ posting this entire thread.

I wasn't reffering to you, i was reffering to the OP, sorry if it seemed like i was hating on you.

[Hinsonator]

Escrito originalmente por qhristoff:

Escrito originalmente por Hinsonator:

I wasn't reffering to you, i was reffering to the OP, sorry if it seemed like i was hating on you.

Soz. was hard to tell in the heat of battle.

Off to Guantanamo with me.

Understandable, happens to the best of us.

[⛥ ⌁⌁L⁕ꝉ⁜ϾH ⌁⌁]

Escrito originalmente por eisberg:

For myself, at close I can tell the difference between 1600x900 and 1920x180, but from a distance I really can't tell the difference between the 2. I could see it be jarring and really break the immersion playing the game.
But if it was an option, and not forced, then that would be cool.

Fps going low is unplayable at an irritating degree. So i would take less resolution i think.