I DONT LIKE IDEA OF DOOM SLAYER

[The consul]

i despice the idea of doom slayer. im more ok with marine whos objective is just survive the demon invasion and not some demi god guy who just like rip and tearing and it feel more like its personal than just cold blooded killing demons to get away and i think he is toooooooo overpowered as ♥♥♥♥

[The consul]

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i have already start discusion about doom 3 being best doom game

Doom 3 was a good horror game in it's own right, but it wasn't DOOM. DOOM is an action game where standing still should always result in death, Doom 3 was a horror game where running in guns blazing resulted in death. Having to choose between the torch or your gun was a fantastic idea, they just shouldn't have called it DOOM.

that the problem i got everyone keep talking about how it wasnt doom enough and i dont think that the you need 50 enemys and 3000 amo to make it doom i think you just need that atmosphere that feels like the only wey is killing every demon

[Sgt Snoke Em]

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i have already start discusion about doom 3 being best doom game

Doom 3 was a good horror game in it's own right, but it wasn't DOOM. DOOM is an action game where standing still should always result in death, Doom 3 was a horror game where running in guns blazing resulted in death. Having to choose between the torch or your gun was a fantastic idea, they just shouldn't have called it DOOM.

To me Doom 3 was what happened if you changed out the Xenomorphs in Aliens with Demons from Doom. Breathing heavy, running through corridors, that almost techno music that's basically just a static sound yet it works, wondering if those red dots are LED's or an Imp about to take your head off.... I fkn loved it.

Doom 2016 is the throwback where you're Hell's Boogie man against all odds.

I like both takes personally. Doom 3 for me came out at that magical time when we also got Halo 2 and Half-Life 2. Those were the days. So granted it could be painted in nostalgia (I was also heavy into raves at the time hehe) but I still like no.3

But yes Doom 2016 does feel like a closer take to the original idea of the 'feel' of doom, whereas to me Doom 3 felt like what they wanted to achieve with the 'idea' of doom.

Both good takes, both valid, just different.

[Sgt Snoke Em]

Or in short, Doom 3 is Evil Dead 1.
Doom 2016 is Ash Vs the Evil Dead lol.
Both good and valid takes, both similar yet both different. Yeah I'll go by that analogy.

[Phoenix]

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To me Doom 3 was what happened if you changed out the Xenomorphs in Aliens with Demons from Doom.

Actually... Doom arose from Id Software originally wanting to do an Aliens game, but lamenting the amount of creative control they would lose by having to license it from Fox. They replaced Xenomorphs with demons from Hell. Also, ironically, one of the earliest fan made total conversions for Doom was an Aliens TC. If I remember right Fox wasn't too happy about that...

[J]

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Or in short, Doom 3 is Evil Dead 1.
Doom 2016 is Ash Vs the Evil Dead lol.
Both good and valid takes, both similar yet both different. Yeah I'll go by that analogy.

[Krimsonk]

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i despice the idea of doom slayer. im more ok with marine whos objective is just survive the demon invasion and not some demi god guy who just like rip and tearing and it feel more like its personal than just cold blooded killing demons to get away and i think he is toooooooo overpowered as ♥♥♥♥ :P7:

Id normally agree, because i love underdog characters, but doomguy has absolutely no personality. And the story in the earlier doom games was super sparse. I much prefer doomslayer because I feel like the story is far more interesting.

Also, one is just as vulnerable as the other, they can both die, the doomslayer just has a mythos behind him.

Doomslayer is badass, and kinda funny. Doomguy is just too bland and too empty for me to care.

[DamarusRex]

I pick the Marine side on this one. Felt actually better being a simple mortal kicking hell's ass than half-god with a holy mission.

That said, game is still a must, and narratively wise, it's solid despite the direction chosen. It's making sense where it didn't have to. So, nice job.

I just can't stress enough the absence of my DOOMGUY HEAD on bottom screen...

[The consul]

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i despice the idea of doom slayer. im more ok with marine whos objective is just survive the demon invasion and not some demi god guy who just like rip and tearing and it feel more like its personal than just cold blooded killing demons to get away and i think he is toooooooo overpowered as ♥♥♥♥

Id normally agree, because i love underdog characters, but doomguy has absolutely no personality. And the story in the earlier doom games was super sparse. I much prefer doomslayer because I feel like the story is far more interesting.

Also, one is just as vulnerable as the other, they can both die, the doomslayer just has a mythos behind him.

Doomslayer is badass, and kinda funny. Doomguy is just too bland and too empty for me to care.

1.practily doom slayer has no personality too
2.they could have make it

[Warlord]

It's the same guy. He just evolved having kicked some much ass.

Marine level 1
Slayer level 100

That's how Doom works.

[rawWwRrr]

I don't see a difference between the two names. It's the same scenario for both. The number of headstones you find in the UN levels proves he's not invulnerable, godlike. It's only our interpretation that makes it seem that way. One could conceivably dominate the demons the same way in the originals as "doom marine" as you can do now as "doom slayer".

[OmegaKiryu827]

OP confirmed a moron. Shaddap and love the awesome you heretic.

[SplatterRat]

Personally I like doomslayer, just feels good to have a character that no one has authority over, cannot be controlled or manipulated, has no time for people's feelings, he just goes in and does what has to be done. I can't imagine doom guy some random marine is able to rip the enemies apart with his bare hands, doom guy could not pull off a glory kill

[The consul]

I would have survive withoun glory kills

[Flick]

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I hate having fun and don't know what a difficulty slider is for

[Dragova]

I agree with OP. To point out the elephant in the room, this is genuinely Bethesda's story writing at work here. They couldn't leave the original idea intact and having acquired the franchise, they wanted to make it their own the only way they knew how, (short of replacing id with a bunch of people who write buggy games) they injected a new story element of being an ancient martian warrior dug up during a hell expedition. Hell, even the armor design itself was more or less "inspired" by Halo.. Not that it's a bad thing, you're just really overpowered now. Also. "Slayer" is likely a nod to the popular Halo gametype.