I bought disc wtf with 53 gig download

[rodbarker007]

This is total BS from Bethesda and id , this is killing my connection and will take 2 days to download .

Its the very reason I bought the disc in the first place so I didnt have to dl such a huge amount and kill the internet access to my entire family because of it , pissed of to say the least and I would never have bought it if I had of known .

Its idiotic to release a hard copy of the game that has no game data on it , this is just sooooo wrong on so many levels .

[rawWwRrr]

Publicado originalmente por LE5LO:

Publicado originalmente por Salamand3r:

100gb+ installs are becoming commonplace, even on the consoles.

What console games are getting commonplace at 100gb+ installs, please impart thy wisdom oh knowledgable one!

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I also love how the anti-physical fu**wits in the comments lament of the pain of upgrading their archaic DVD drives to Blu Ray and keep arguing that Blu Ray doesn't have the market share, blah blah... no sh++! Let you ignorant morons have your DVD drives as the last you ever install because you have glorious high speed internet and will never be without it... for the so-called PC master race, freaking pathetic!!! A bunch of morons in the comments here promoting anti-physical, but pro DVD. Massive Picard face palm.

PCMR is all about Ghz, ram, gfx, and RGB. Very little optical drive.

The reason DVD didn't migrate massively to BluRay was because, as I've pointed out in previous posts, not required for the PC market due to the advent of the network download install promoted mostly by Steam which became the single biggest source of PC gaming distribution on the planet. Since then you're seeing other online distribution stores popping up.

Consoles still used it for various reasons but even now you can see a trending shift away from physical media on consoles as well today with online activation with their respective "online stores".

[🅱🅾🆁🅶]

Only reason to buy physical on consoles is to up the selling price of the console when you sell it. Sell it as a bundle with all the games you've collected.

But otherwise it takes freaking minutes to download 100's of gigabytes nowadays with most internet connections out there so no reason to buy physical. Even demos are at least 20+ gigabyte most of the time now and if you canthandle that then you better figure out how to because the future is digital.

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

Publicado originalmente por 🅱🅾🆁🅶:

Only reason to buy physical on consoles is to up the selling price of the console when you sell it. Sell it as a bundle with all the games you've collected.

But otherwise it takes freaking minutes to download 100's of gigabytes nowadays with most internet connections out there so no reason to buy physical. Even demos are at least 20+ gigabyte most of the time now and if you canthandle that then you better figure out how to because the future is digital.

Because you have a fast ISP, you think everyone else has one?

Publicado originalmente por LE5LO:

Publicado originalmente por Salamand3r:

100gb+ installs are becoming commonplace, even on the consoles.

What console games are getting commonplace at 100gb+ installs, please impart thy wisdom oh knowledgable one!

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I also love how the anti-physical fu**wits in the comments lament of the pain of upgrading their archaic DVD drives to Blu Ray and keep arguing that Blu Ray doesn't have the market share, blah blah... no sh++! Let you ignorant morons have your DVD drives as the last you ever install because you have glorious high speed internet and will never be without it... for the so-called PC master race, freaking pathetic!!! A bunch of morons in the comments here promoting anti-physical, but pro DVD. Massive Picard face palm.

You're dealing with uber trolls that use cherry picked examples, large game installs are not common place on consoles, this is a fact
19 games that are excessive in installs, out of a library of 1000s?
Blu Ray does not add to the cost of manufacture for console releases, the pressing is less than $1 per unit for a 5K pressing, both Sony and MS have in their units BR play back devices so there is no reason why BR media is not used for games as we know

[Salamand3r-]

Publicado originalmente por Snake Plissken:

Publicado originalmente por 🅱🅾🆁🅶:

Only reason to buy physical on consoles is to up the selling price of the console when you sell it. Sell it as a bundle with all the games you've collected.

But otherwise it takes freaking minutes to download 100's of gigabytes nowadays with most internet connections out there so no reason to buy physical. Even demos are at least 20+ gigabyte most of the time now and if you canthandle that then you better figure out how to because the future is digital.

Because you have a fast ISP, you think everyone else has one?

Publicado originalmente por LE5LO:

What console games are getting commonplace at 100gb+ installs, please impart thy wisdom oh knowledgable one!

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I also love how the anti-physical fu**wits in the comments lament of the pain of upgrading their archaic DVD drives to Blu Ray and keep arguing that Blu Ray doesn't have the market share, blah blah... no sh++! Let you ignorant morons have your DVD drives as the last you ever install because you have glorious high speed internet and will never be without it... for the so-called PC master race, freaking pathetic!!! A bunch of morons in the comments here promoting anti-physical, but pro DVD. Massive Picard face palm.

You're dealing with uber trolls that use cherry picked examples, large game installs are not common place on consoles, this is a fact
19 games that are excessive in installs, out of a library of 1000s?
Blu Ray does not add to the cost of manufacture for console releases, the pressing is less than $1 per unit for a 5K pressing, both Sony and MS have in their units BR play back devices so there is no reason why BR media is not used for games as we know

I was being nice, and mostly going with larger games from 2-3 years ago on the consoles, but let's add some more - again, a quick Google search would provide you with the same information, without need to accuse others of "cherry picked", but I guess it's easier to go on a white supremacist radio show to moan about how put-upon you are for an hour than spend 5 minutes in a search engine.

Quantum Break - 94gb min/178gb max
Shadow of War - 95gb (already mentioned by someone else, but not included in your 19)
ARK - 70gb
FF15 - 55gb on consoles, almost 150gb on PC
Destiny 2 - 53gb minimum
God of War - 50gb minimum
Detroit Become Human - 45.5gb as of today
Far Cry 5 - 60gb
Every current "2k18" sports game - 42gb min, 70gb max
Conan Exiles - 50gb
Kingdom Come: Deliverance - 46gb. It also had a 23gb day-1 patch on PS4.

As to defining "commonplace" - Between Xbox and PS4 there are an estimated ~150 million current gen consoles sold to date.

That means just on my lists alone, at least 20% of those console owners have Black Ops 3 - that's relatively common.

Even assuming there is a lot of overlap between players, between just the first handful of games I mentioned, there are more of those sold than there are current gen consoles in the wild.

If you check every major AAA console international release this year, over 50% are over 50gb after patches, and sometimes much more after DLC.

We're not talking retro games or indie games or Sony's "early access" clone asset flip store. AAA releases, of which there are not "1000s" on either console.

But Snake's back anyway - I can't pick on him too hard or he'll have to go on a podcast to cry or make impotent threats again.

[jimtendo32]

Publicado originalmente por Salamand3r:

Publicado originalmente por LE5LO:

a short list of console installs at, near, or over 100gb:

CoD Black Ops 3 - 101gb
CoD IW - 95gb
Gears of War 4 - 116gb
Halo 5: Guardians - 98gb
GTAV - 65-95gb depending platform and content
Forza 7 - 100gb+
Project Cars 2 - 46-90gb, depending on content
TES Online - 80gb+

And then just the games about the size of Doom? (lets use the current size of ~50-65gb)

Halo: Master Chief Collection
Dead Rising 4
GoW Ultimate Edition
Ghost Recon Wildlands
WWE 2k17
NBA 2k17
Killer Instinct
Wolfenstein: TNO/TNC
The Last of Us Remastered
Mafia 3
Battlefield 1
Dragon Age: Inquisition

Thanks for replying, sorry to doubt you in the last quote and take so long to reply, I've bought and installed so many games for PS4 over the last 12 month, none of them reach the size you've stated above, I assume that's the PC versions as most PS4 never top around 50...high res textures aren't a big deal for me to miss out on for PC, I remember Max Payne 3 having around 30GB just for high res textures on PC. when downloading becomes the only way of delivering this it will just be a total pain in the ass. :/

[🍋 Lemonfed 🍋]

Elder scroll online on PC do use around 80gb once installed and fully updated.

[⚡Snake⚡Plissken⚡]

Publicado originalmente por LE5LO:

Thanks for replying, sorry to doubt you in the last quote and take so long to reply, I've bought and installed so many games for PS4 over the last 12 month, none of them reach the size you've stated above, I assume that's the PC versions as most PS4 never top around 50...high res textures aren't a big deal for me to miss out on for PC, I remember Max Payne 3 having around 30GB just for high res textures on PC. when downloading becomes the only way of delivering this it will just be a total pain in the ass. :/

No he is specifically speaking abt Sony releases, ie PS4, so is clueless of their actual size

[Executioner Gaming]

Publicado originalmente por James Bond:

You can come round to my house and download it to your machine.
I remember moaning about downlaoding Half life 1 via 56k when Steam was new back in 2003.

God forbid someone picks up the phone in the middle of the download... ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ we are getting a second phone line!

[Caustic_Drool]

Back in the day, they did not mind putting the information on multiple discs for installation...now days, nope.

[rawWwRrr]

Publicado originalmente por Caustic_Drool:

Back in the day, they did not mind putting the information on multiple discs for installation...now days, nope.

Yeah that wasn't so great. Slow reads and multiple discs made for a long boring installation process, chained to the computer the whole while. And then you get that one that doesn't read quite right. Then you're back to the store to exchange it to go back home and start the process over. Oh and hope that the media doesn't degrade or get damaged at all or else you're having to buy the game again if you need to install it again later on a different computer or hard drive.

Now I just click a button.

[The Unmobable spés]

I like it to have a physical copy of a great game, music album etc. It's nice to have and looking good. No one cares about mp3's but buying CD's lets you actually have something.

[chollirem]

Is anyone else haveing a flachback of tony hawks pro skater? XD

[Spider-Mom]

Publicado originalmente por chollirem:

Is anyone else haveing a flachback of tony hawks pro skater? XD

QFE

The technologically best answer btw is going back to cartriges. It would be massivly more expensive but the potential performance boost would be worth it. Loading games into a rom on a cart prevents the need for an install entierly and could be used to prevent online cheating and hacking and prevent piracy without the need for a worthless overdesigned software solution. A hardware based secutiry check and authentication is really the best answer.