Struggling to enjoy the Argent Tower on Nightmare.

[Kyrth]

you have to fight three Mancubi & a Hellknight backed by Imps, Possesed marines & Hellrazers.

What sucks is that the four meaty demons spawn at the same time, running you down with a barrage of deadly artillery & melee attacks. You don't have the BFG at this point in the game and so you, the 'Doom Slayer' are forced to run away, with passive-kiting being the only semi-viable strategy. The Hellrazers make this strategy null however, as they will snipe you if you don't kill the Beefier demons fast enough. Trying to focus on killing the Hellrazers first doesn't work, because they are spread very far apart & at varying ellavations, leaving you severely vulnerable to the Hellknight's pursuit & Mancubi's missiles.

I honestly don't know how to methodically overcome this fight. I have been sure to hunt down as much equipment & upgrades as possible throughout this playthrough. Yet the closest i've come to overcoming this, is slaying 1 Mancubi & the Hellknight before being Sniped by either the other two other Mancubi, or the Hellrazer's lazers.

Am i missing something?

[judy~ bday today]

use a trainer

[Kyrth]

Nevermind. I noticed a Quad damage multiplier right after writing this, and proceeded to roflstomp all Mancubi + Hellknight in a matter of seconds. Sorry.

[Kyrth]

If anyone gets stuck on this fight, and finds this post, then ignore the Mancubi that spawns infront of you as the fight starts. Make a beeline directly to the Quad damage powerup on the other side of the room. equip the Rocket Launcher. if your ammo is sparse, then focus the Mancubi & Hellknight before switching to a weaker weapon to deal with the lesser demons. If your ammo is not sparse, go to town! The fight will be over in seconds.

[Ransom]

if u need to run away from demons ur simply to slow ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roghCmJYgrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72S2aAxtZOs

[Abrakadabra]

I dont like relying on boosts cause often times I dont see them or Im too focused on killing stuff. Sometimes theyre right there when I can use them, but mostly I dont pay attention to them or search for them or go out of my way to reach them.

Nightmare gets infinitely easier once you dont glory kill every demon.

[Kyrth]

Originally posted by iluvpumpum:

I dont like relying on boosts cause often times I dont see them or Im too focused on killing stuff. Sometimes theyre right there when I can use them, but mostly I dont pay attention to them or search for them or go out of my way to reach them.

Nightmare gets infinitely easier once you dont glory kill every demon.

Your statement on Glory Kills is too true. You'd think that taking more damage means relying on glory kills to recover, but they often end up being the reason you die. It's best to focus on keeping a healthy distance from your enemies, as to capitalize on their generallly reactable projectile speeds.

[Baron01]

Originally posted by Catatonic_Analytic:

Nevermind. I noticed a Quad damage multiplier right after writing this, and proceeded to roflstomp all Mancubi + Hellknight in a matter of seconds. Sorry.

I was about to mention quad damage... ;)

This is also place where I stopped my Nightmare playthrough back when Doom 2016 was still fresh.I originally set a limitation for myself not to use bonuses such as quad damage, invulnerability or haste in my Nightmare run. Exactly the spot you mention in OP was the place where I simply could not pull the whole sequence flawlessly as required by number of demons spawning and how much damage they were dealing.
I have recently returned to the game to refresh my memory and this place was a cake on Ultra-Violence.

[Abrakadabra]

Originally posted by Catatonic_Analytic:

Originally posted by iluvpumpum:

I dont like relying on boosts cause often times I dont see them or Im too focused on killing stuff. Sometimes theyre right there when I can use them, but mostly I dont pay attention to them or search for them or go out of my way to reach them.

Nightmare gets infinitely easier once you dont glory kill every demon.

Your statement on Glory Kills is too true. You'd think that taking more damage means relying on glory kills to recover, but they often end up being the reason you die. It's best to focus on keeping a healthy distance from your enemies, as to capitalize on their generallly reactable projectile speeds.

I know.

Glory kills make you immobile for a brief moment, bringing you swift death, on the other hand, sometimes they can save your life.

[Baron01]

Originally posted by iluvpumpum:

I know.

Glory kills make you immobile for a brief moment, bringing you swift death, on the other hand, sometimes they can save your life.

Glory kills also provide invulnerability for a brief moment--using rune to quicken glory kills and another one to increase range, from which you can activate them feels great. I do not perform glory kills on big demons unless I'm very close to them because I have more than few times miss the window for triggering and got blasted to smithereens next moment.