DOOM 2016 doesn't feel smooth on high end system

[hlhbk]

First off my specs:

Intel 8700k
ASUS Maximus Hero X motherboard
32 GB RAM
Nvidia GTX 1080TI
SSD
Win 10
1080p gsync

The issue:

On older system Doom ran very smooth at 144fps and turning the camera was smooth. Built my new gaming rig back in January. and just got around to testing Doom. Things do not feel smooth at all, and the FPS keeps wildly fluctuating. When looking at performance in Doom GPU usage is super low and cpu keeps spiking into the red and the cpu numbers keep going into red. See the video below to see what is happening:

Video of issue

A few important notes:

• My current video card, and all hard drives I had in my old rig that ran Doom great.
  
• When I built my new rig I did a completely fresh install of Windows 10 including downloading all of my Steam games again.
  
• I am running the latest drivers and BIOS.
  
• Ran torture tests in prime 95 when I first built my rig for over 2 days without issues and my temps were in normal range
  
• Ran 3dmark 2 days ago and my score was better than 88% of users and inline with my specs according to others.
  
• Windows task manager is not showing the spikes I am seeing in game
  
• Doom is the only game this is happening in. I have played other games (such as Witcher 3 in Novigrad, Rise Of The Tomb Raider, Crysis 3, Battlefield One, COD WW2, GTA V) none of them have this issue and run super smooth with a stable frame rate. This leads me to believe it is not a hardware issue.
  
• While I am not an expert at everything (the overclocking and bios settings are my weakest point so far) I have been building gaming pcs for over 15 years, and been in IT as a technical SME since 2005. I consider myself pretty technical and can 99% of the time figure out issues with my rig. This has been maddening and baffling.

What has been done to troubleshoot (semi in order):

• Fresh install of Windows 10 (Windows fully updated, drivers all installed minus the Asus Ai suite)
  
• Fresh install of Doom.
  
• Deleted the Doom config files.
  
• Tried Opengl, and Vulkan API's.
  
• Completely disabled Windows defender and turned off Windows firewall
  
• Turned off Steam overlay, made sure fraps, msi afterburner, rivatuner are all closed.
  
• Enabled riva turner and capped fps to 100 and still saw the same issue including fps going all over the place.
  
• Disconnected my second monitor.
  
• Tried with Gsync disabled.
  
• ASUS AI suite was installed when I first built the PC. It had automatically overclocked the PC. I set all levels back to stock in BIOS.
  
• Set windows to high performance, and changed to max performance in nvidia control panel.
  
• Tried full screen, borderless, and Windowed
  
• Set the Doom process to run at high priority in Windows
  
• Disabled all Windows 10 game features (DVR, etc)
  
• Deleted Geforce Experience
  
• Enabled XMP profile in the BIOS
  
• Disabled Intel Stepboost in bios
  
• Disabled C states in BIOS
  
• Disabled HID and sound devices
  
• Loaded the gamers OC profile in BIOS.
  
• Moved video card to top PCIE slot and made sure it was running at 16x speed.
  
• Made sure RAM is running at correct speed.
  
• Unplugged KB/mouse and tried just with a controller.
  
• Looked up low GPU usage for Doom in google and found a post on the Steam forums that mentioned the same issue and that setting BCLK to auto fixed their issues. Set to auto in BIOS.
  
• Per suggestion at https://www.resetera.com/threads/doom-2016-doesnt-feel-smooth-on-high-end-system.33194/page-5#post-6242059 completely reinstalled Windows again with only monitor, keyboard, and mouse plugged in, installed updates, and only installed Nvidia driver and now game will only launch to a black screen.
  
• Let game sit at black screen for 20 minutes without any movement.
  
• Tried starting game with no intro's black screen remains.
  
• Tried launching opengl or vulkan, still having black screen.
  
• Turned off steam cloud sync, deleted all config files and saved, launched the game (prior to black screen issues) which created new config files, then overrode the ones in the cloud.

As you can imagine this has been extremely frustrating. Due to other games running as expected I do not think this is hardware issue. The only thing I haven't done so far is try a completely fresh install of Steam since I have a ton of games. I usually delete everything but the steam executable, the user data folder, and the steam apps folder than install team. When I get home tonight I may reinstall Windows again, install a fresh copy of Steam on my C drive (usually install steam on a seperate SSD) and see what happens.

Any other suggestions are welcomed.

[Ransom]

to fix the blackscreen issue install vc++ redistributable 2012 and 2015 also directx (u will find it in doom\_commonredist ; the vc++2015 u will find if u follow the link to microsoft.com mentioned in the sticky for the last patch)

because of it doesnt feel smooth, is it like it moves slightly delayed if u move the mouse like a inputlag?
get sure the prerendered frames is set to 1 in the graphics control pannel and set vsync to default there. maybe this will help

[Sebdmc]

i notice that frame rate is very unstable since lastest patch and its very annoying and i have i7 7700k with gtx 1080 ti 32gb ram and usally the fps is perfect

[Ransom]

only after the last patch? try to disable chroma support in mouse and keyboard settings if u didnt done this before

[hlhbk]

So I have a massive update on this! Luckily I got to work from home and while working I multitasked and got Windows 7 installed on my system. This wasn't an easy task as I had to streamline drivers into the install for my chipset. The exciting news is as soon as I got into Win 7, fully installed all Windows updates, and drivers (even the ASUS AI suite) Doom is running butter smooth at a locked 144 fps (my monitors max fps) with everything maxed. This definitely confirms my issues are NOT hardware related! The only difference between my installs of Doom this time and in Win 10 is I did a fresh install of Steam on the same drive I installed Windows on (I had a dedicated drive I had it on before). So once I get back from dinner going back to 10 and seeing if that helps. I am open to other ideas finally a positive break through after well over 30 hours of plugging away at this!

[ghostwolf1610]

Originally posted by hlhbk:

So I have a massive update on this! Luckily I got to work from home and while working I multitasked and got Windows 7 installed on my system. This wasn't an easy task as I had to streamline drivers into the install for my chipset. The exciting news is as soon as I got into Win 7, fully installed all Windows updates, and drivers (even the ASUS AI suite) Doom is running butter smooth at a locked 144 fps (my monitors max fps) with everything maxed. This definitely confirms my issues are NOT hardware related! The only difference between my installs of Doom this time and in Win 10 is I did a fresh install of Steam on the same drive I installed Windows on (I had a dedicated drive I had it on before). So once I get back from dinner going back to 10 and seeing if that helps. I am open to other ideas finally a positive break through after well over 30 hours of plugging away at this!

Please do update us on that, because I'm having problems with fps as well and any idea is welcome haha

[Jo_Mei]

switch from opengl to vulkan api in graphic options

[TerminatorUK]

Originally posted by Ransom:

only after the last patch? try to disable chroma support in mouse and keyboard settings if u didnt done this before

You sir, are a legend.

Spent an entire afternoon trying to get my rig (8700k @ 5ghz, GTX 1080Ti, 16GB DDR4) to be smooth like it should be but was getting CPU-induced microstutter according to the advanced settings.

Tried a huge combination of OpenGL / Vulkan, updated drivers, clean re-install of the game, tweaks to nvidia control panel, high performance setting in Windows etc... nothing worked.

It was indeed a stutter which started with the latest patch and, low and behold, turning off Razer Chroma support fully restored the performance!

All metrics now green and no crazy all-over-the-place framerates and massive sub 100fps drops in framerate.

Thank you so much for this suggestion - very much appreciated! :)

[heatsink_]

Originally posted by Ransom:

only after the last patch? try to disable chroma support in mouse and keyboard settings if u didnt done this before

Gonna second this.

i9 7900X + 1080 Ti should run this game like butter but it didn't. Disabled the Chroma settings and I went from wildly erratic framerates to smooth 60+ FPS @ 4K. Still some quirks, but I guess it kinda drives home that Razer's kinda ♥♥♥♥.

Thanks!

[S0ulstace]

Originally posted by Ransom:

only after the last patch? try to disable chroma support in mouse and keyboard settings if u didnt done this before

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.....this worked....

I have a waaay beyond spec PC for this game, and was getting like 20 fps, it was AWFUL. Turned off chroma--rock solid 200 fps with ultra turned on. You are a legend.

[Tyberius]

Holy f*ck I am so glad I found this thread. I was about to lose my mind trying to narrow down this issue. I have a 1080ti and was getting 40fps and it was driving me insane. Turned off chroma and all is well. Thank you all so much.

[Hizonner]

Thank God for steam forums. Could not, for the life of me, figure out why my 1070 max q was having issues with this. Changing the game quality did absolutely nothing but when I finally disabled Chroma, I got 144 fps smooth at ultra

[Chr1spy]

Try changing the value of threads you use in the command console by using the command "jobs_numthreads". The default is -1 being the value that automatically uses all the cores your CPU has though that made the game stutter more for me.

Applying "jobs_numthreads 2" removed the stutters and gave me smoother framerates but using 1 thread crashes the game for me. Put the command on the steam launch options
(e.g. +jobs_numthreads 2) so it wouldn't change back to the default value everytime you launch the game though it will load the game menu a bit slower if you do.

[Xeomir]

@RANSOME : U R LEGEND !!! Thank you so much for this AWESOME HINT !!!

[BAG]

The stuttering problem i was having literaly yesterday was that i had too many background processes going at once. I fixed it by going to settings then privacy then background apps then i turned off let apps run in the background.

[Varming]

I was really confused because my game was still lagging after i turnd off croma in the razer app. But i finally found out that its in the game you have to turn it off not in the razer app. Thank you guys so much for the help!