Doom high CPU usage

[molinahector637]

I’m having a problem with doom, doom in ultra settings with Vulkan and open gl. The problem is that there is high cpu usage like 70% even until 90%. While my gpu usage is unstable reach 60%, 70% and 90%. I’m having this problem only with doom. I’m having sudden stutter too
My specs:
Intel i5-8600k
Amd rx 580
16gb ram

I overclocked my cpu to 47000Mhz, I have less cpu usage but gpu usage still the same unstable between 60 to 80. And the stutter still continue.

[vadike]

The problem exists after last March 29 update for Intel Core iX CPU's. The devs know about this.

[strider_sp]

Are you sure the CPU is not thermal throttling? Mine was, and when it downclocked to cool down, framerates cratered. Wolfenstein behaving the same makes it possible, because both games runs the same engine, and it is quite CPU demanding.

[molinahector637]

Yes I’m sure, my cpu clock right now is 43000mhz, and the temperature are like 45 and 50. Still cpu usage is like 60 to 70. Sometimes, it’s 80

[strider_sp]

I'm out of ideas.

As someone said, there were updates for intel processors that may have affected more some than others. There are the usual windows 10 updates wrecking havoc as I have heard (but I'm not sure, since I'm using windows 7).

GPU drivers seem already checked and ruled out, I'm using the first adrenalin from december and it is fine, I think newer drivers hardly could could cause any damage to performance. I usually uninstall, then run ddu, then ccleaner, restarting between every step to be sure nothing remains from one version to another, then install the new one.

And all hardware seems to be correctly power fed as you say.

The last resort would be formatting... maybe it worth.

Btw, which resolution?

[ThirteenSoft]

stop watching horse pr0n

[-DREIDARA-Tzu-]

Originally posted by ZM | Dr. Dro:

I'm not spreading misinformation, have you even read what I wrote?

It is a fact that: 8600K is a 6-core/6-thread CPU
It is a fact that: system timer configuration can impact DPC latency and perceived smoothness
It is a fact that: high overclocks can cause minor system errors and crashes, reducing overall performance
It is a fact that: the Core i5 lineup are built out of mainstream i7 dies that didn't pass quality assurance and were scaled down in order to function correctly

Plus, I did not say that the AMD GPU drivers are what cause issues with Razer Chroma. I said that their performance is comparatively poor, and that AMD has a track record of breaking things with virtually every driver update. The latter is not even a contestable fact, even the most diehard Radeon fans will admit that AMD breaks trivial things way more often than they should and even have the PR gaffes to match.

https://www.techpowerup.com/240103/amd-unlikely-to-fix-dx9-games-bugged-by-adrenalin-driver

They did fix it of course after a pretty much universal outrage and many nasty comments, but if there's one GPU manufacturer not scared to drop support to things they can't be arsed supporting or fixing, that's AMD. You are, of course, welcome to recourse against it and post factual evidence to the fact i'm wrong. Such as, API performance of the driver and hardware (3DMark overhead test is great for this), some OpenGL and Vulkan benchmarks of your own so I can compare them to my own hardware... which is 4 years old, AMD's latest GPU could at least tie it, so it's a gentlemanly way to resolve this. Let us begin ;)

https://www.3dmark.com/aot/250394

Again, you're lying. I specifically adressed what was wrong in your first post. Dont try to make it seem like I am negating your entire post (your i5 and OC info is not inaccurate).

A simple "AMD DX9" search will show you that AMD was planning on fixing the DX9 driver bug. The driver bug got blown out of proportion when all the tech websites ran with the false narrative that AMD was not gonna fix the DX9 driver bug. The DX9 bug is not an issue considering both AMD and Nvidia have messed up performance due to drivers.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3245388/components-graphics/amd-fix-radeon-software-adrenalin-bug-dx9-games.html

https://www.pcworld.com/article/3245388/components-graphics/amd-fix-radeon-software-adrenalin-bug-dx9-games.html

https://www.pcgamesn.com/amd-adrenalin-dx9-bug

You can't take one example of a drivers issue (which was resolved) and assume everything AMD related has issues (DOOM Chroma Bug). The Chroma bug is affecting AMD, Intel, and Nvidia systems.

Also, you have a decent rig. The API test is a single test that does not account for the entire perfromance spectrum. The fact is, AMD GPUs that were meant to compete with Nvidia's 900 series compete nicely and in many cases, have taken over 900 series.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/hitman_2016_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/the_division_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,6.html

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/far_cry_primal_pc_graphics_performance_benchmark_review,7.html

https://www.pcgamer.com/doom-benchmarks-return-vulkan-vs-opengl/2/

http://hwbench.com/vgas/geforce-gtx-980-vs-radeon-r9-fury

Also, RX Vega may not compete with a 1080ti in gaming (competes with 1080. 1070ti and 1070), but RX Vega REKS the entire Nvidia 1000 series in compute.

https://techgage.com/article/a-look-at-amds-radeon-rx-vega-64-workstation-compute-performance/

https://wccftech.com/amd-rx-vega-64-mining-performance-blows-away-titan-v-xmr-monero/

http://www.legitreviews.com/performance-tests-amd-radeon-rx-vega-graphics-cards-mining-xmr-monero_201101

The reason why the Vega line up is so expensive is because they're compute monsters and cryptominers love them.

Anywho, the new update seemed to have fixed a lot of my issues. It was like 35MB or so. Really small update for DOOM.

[-DREIDARA-Tzu-]

Originally posted by molinahector637:

Yes I’m sure, my cpu clock right now is 43000mhz, and the temperature are like 45 and 50. Still cpu usage is like 60 to 70. Sometimes, it’s 80

Look up the Bethesda forums. Maybe you will get some help.

https://bethesda.net/community/category/50/pc

From the looks of it, a lot of peeps are having issues regardless of the hardware brand.

Still, there was an update that seemed to have fixed issues for me.

[UnKn0wN]

you are aware that microsoft made some ♥♥♥♥♥♥ patches lately because of Meltdown/Spectre that can wreck your CPU performance up to 30-40% loss depending on the hardware, OS and bios.
those updates are for win10 and win7, if you already installed them only thing you can do is try to disable them with this utility:


https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm

[molinahector637]

hey guys, I tried almost everything. I reset all my data and reintalled the os window. I tried old drivers, still the same issue with high cpu usage in doom and wolfeinstein 2. My cpu is intel i5 8600k. I disabled razer chroma in doom. I tried another graphic card an amd rx 580 but from another manufacture. the high cpu still. I checked my ram everything was all right. I reinstalled doom, still the same issue. I reset setting in bio by default, it didn't work. I reinstalled motherboard drivers. High cpu usage still. The temperature of my gpu is like 55c and cpu is like 40c. I tested in another games such as battlefild 1, battlefield 1 was giving me high cpu usage but it didn't give me those ramdon freeze as doom and wolfeinstein 2. Resident evil seven, it was good the game play with low cpu usage and gpu usage stable at 99%. I ran a scan for virus nothing found. I going to say my specs of my pc.

Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card
NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply


My issues in doom and wolfeinstein high cpu usage and freeze for 1 second.
when the freeze happens, in the metrics in the game there is a red line in cpu and the numbers on cpu are red.

[molinahector637]

So I followed the instruction in manual of the motherboard, I placed the ram sticks in A2 and B2, it says , it's recommended. the first time it wasn't reading the two ram sticks. but reinstalled them, it was reading both. Also I tried the DIMM A1 and B1, still the same performance. DO you think it's the ram that it's giving me this problem. I have tested with window memory diagnostic, the results were that there wasn't any error.

[-DREIDARA-Tzu-]

Originally posted by molinahector637:

hey guys, I tried almost everything. I reset all my data and reintalled the os window. I tried old drivers, still the same issue with high cpu usage in doom and wolfeinstein 2. My cpu is intel i5 8600k. I disabled razer chroma in doom. I tried another graphic card an amd rx 580 but from another manufacture. the high cpu still. I checked my ram everything was all right. I reinstalled doom, still the same issue. I reset setting in bio by default, it didn't work. I reinstalled motherboard drivers. High cpu usage still. The temperature of my gpu is like 55c and cpu is like 40c. I tested in another games such as battlefild 1, battlefield 1 was giving me high cpu usage but it didn't give me those ramdon freeze as doom and wolfeinstein 2. Resident evil seven, it was good the game play with low cpu usage and gpu usage stable at 99%. I ran a scan for virus nothing found. I going to say my specs of my pc.

Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor
Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
Asus - ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING ATX LGA1151 Motherboard
PNY - Anarchy 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory

Asus - Radeon RX 580 8GB ROG STRIX Video Card
NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case
EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply


My issues in doom and wolfeinstein high cpu usage and freeze for 1 second.
when the freeze happens, in the metrics in the game there is a red line in cpu and the numbers on cpu are red.

I had the same issues with my Ryzen 1700X. I took off SMT and those annoying spikes went away in DOOM. The new DOOM update semmed to have done something because my GPU is back to normal. Have you tried the new update? It was about 35MB.

[-DREIDARA-Tzu-]

"Like I said, I never stated that the Chroma bug has ANYTHING to do with the AMD drivers. I said they were buggy garbage whose developers break random things with each and every update. NVIDIA's aren't perfect either, but at least their OpenGL codepaths work[richg42.blogspot.com] and they do multithreaded DirectX 11 correctly, which is the most important thing really... plus, you are aware that I was taking a jab at their constant PR gaffes and lack of communication with their driver teams (if they have any, tbh) instead of saying they actually intended to keep DX9 games broken? I'm incredibly cynical because AMD deserves it, these guys are whacko's with absolutely no game anymore, and this has made NVIDIA virulently arrogant as a result."

Why bring up PR gaffes in a convo about fixing a DOOM chroma bug? The gaffe you brought up was a narrative pushed by a few tech sites to boost their sites and it was all based off of one AMD forum interaction. We all know Nvidia has the performance crown with the 1080ti, but all the other price points are still fair game.

"Speaking of largely obsoleted benchmarks like those you copiously linked (considering that NVIDIA now has the most advanced low-level API support, including faster Vulkan on both Maxwell and Pascal plus a dedicated developer branch for this API[developer.nvidia.com]), remember when it was the HD 5870 pushing GTX 480 performance at half the power consumption? Well, I do. Except that even then, my HD 5970 gave me trouble in multiple games because an absolute genius decided that it would be a good idea to disallow 5970 owners to disable CrossFire, forcing them to have it on all the time and dealing with glitches/negative scaling... the reason I never looked back. Few years later they added the ability to do it tho."

Nice, you posted a link with drivers. Guess what? Radeon has a driver website too. Well, it sucks you had a bad experience with Radeon, but guess what? Many peeps have had Nvidia cards explode and catch on fire.

https://gizmodo.com/5107277/do-the-new-macbook-pros-have-faulty-nvidia-graphics-cards
https://www.pcworld.com/article/149055/DellNvidia.html

Also, you can turn off Crossfire by turning off a GPU in Device Manager. Pretty lame you have to do that (I do it for Vega), but its not the end of the world.

"Now we have Titan Xp at 200% the efficiency of a RX580 (which is their fastest card per watt) and it's not even their fastest GPU anymore. Ryzen was a great triumph but RTG is an utter failure of a division and every product they've put out since the Pitcairn processor isn't worth anyone's but a miner's time, anyone that had any talent in RTG left for greener (or bluer, such in Raja Koduri's case) pastures. My opinion is that AMD acknowledged Vega failed as a gaming GPU when they swiftly changed the marketing on Vega Frontier from prosumer to "blockchain pioneer" and essentially stopped advertising the card's main attractive of dual-mode gaming+professional application support, this coupled with 16 GB HBM2 created an irresistible product even with all the shortcomings. But they didn't make enough."

Again, the Titan XP is a beast card, but not everyone is gonna buy that Halo product. Most peeps would be set with a GTX1060/RX580. Of course, peeps still go for the Nvidia card depsite the fact that the RX580 is the better buy for many reasons (8GB Buffer, Freesync, ReLive).

"Wherever Vega wins at mining (because wow, who would have thought, big GCN chip is good at compute!!1one), it loses in gaming performance, it can't keep up with my GM204 980 in draw call performance (being actually ridiculously smashed in DirectX 11 single-thread even on a slow processor), and in general sits behind the GTX 1070Ti in like 8 out of 10 games you test, even disregarding it's at double the power consumption. Now that the mining craze began to subside, it'll be interesting to watch how these things will get positioned in the market, or pulled altogether."

Well, Vega still beats the 1000 series at compute. You can't write that fact off because it doesn't align with your feefees. Also, CryptoNight based coins are still going strong.

https://minecryptonight.net/

"I am harsh, but they deserve it... these guys have failed their fans and failed their rival's customers because we now have a company that shows nothing but disdain to their consumers, and i'm not talking about AMD. Oddly enough, I still have hope that their newfound success with Ryzen and ironically, the small Vega variants on the Ryzen APUs that perform mighty decently (considered how much of a laughing stock the 56 and 64 are against GP104 from a gamer's standpoint), they manage to get back on their feet and do their damn job."

Well, you should be harsh if a company is being ♥♥♥♥♥♥, but as of now, you are literally expressing opinions. What company recently backed out of a program that literally ♥♥♥♥ on the entire GPU industry? Oh yeah! Nvidia's GPP! They really seem to want to appreciate their fans and industry by trying to stronghold competition through coercion and manipulation. This tops all PR Gaffes and somehow, Nvidia is still gonna get away with it.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/04/12/2-major-pc-makers-say-no-to-nvidia-geforce-partner-program/#2a83f33410cd
https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/86xic2/geforce_partner_program_gpp_discussion_megathread/

I do hope Radeon gets their ♥♥♥♥ together soon as well. They have legit tech, but lack resources to really tighten their product stack. I read that Vegas Primitive Shaders are still not being used by software! WTF! That is terrible. Hopefully Ryzens success will help them buff up Radeon. They really do need the help.

[molinahector637]

Hey guys, I found the problem. The aura sync which appeared as lightning service for rgb lights for the graphic card and the motherboard was using 20% percent of my cpu. I uninstalled the aura sync. I saw some improvement but still kind of high cpu usage. With doom the cpu usage decrease a little bit. Now it’s between 60 to 70 percent no like before even to 80%. And the freeze for 1 second now it’s very rarely to appear. So I don’t know if that cpu is normal but the issue of the freeze is a little less. And the new drivers 18.4. causes some long freeze not like the last version the 18.2

[molinahector637]

Also, guys I want to add that the gpu usage is a little more stable at 80% sometime at 75%.

[strider_sp]

HELL YEAH!!!

This game is demanding, not in a bad way, not even close that. It seems, at least on my experience, to use well the resources it needs to provide an optimal experience.

Considering your pc specs and usage, would be fair getting your fps hovering above 100 fps, someone correct me if wrong.

I would test with 18.4.1 too (Neptunia demands it), but the driver insists to say "unknown amd hardware" when I try to install it. From heaven to hell in one driver version, damn it.