DOOM
mie001 Dec 9, 2016 @ 8:56am
Play with bots have no xp?
kindda sad
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Kurtovicz Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:00am 
...no. Get good.
Camo Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:23am 
....Pfffff No Xp with bots kill the game...
BigB0iii J0nes Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Freepouille:
...no. Get good.
Its not about getting good its just this game is pretty f*cken dead right now. Like its really hard to find matches anymore so xp in private match with bots or no bots should be enabled.
Kurtovicz Dec 9, 2016 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by EHEBrandon:
Originally posted by Freepouille:
...no. Get good.
Its not about getting good its just this game is pretty f*cken dead right now. Like its really hard to find matches anymore so xp in private match with bots or no bots should be enabled.

You serious? Seeing how unpopular multiplayer is how can you even think allowing stat noobs to earn xp while playing agains't bots would be a good idea? That's how multi would die.
vackillers Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:19am 
Originally posted by Freepouille:
Originally posted by EHEBrandon:
Its not about getting good its just this game is pretty f*cken dead right now. Like its really hard to find matches anymore so xp in private match with bots or no bots should be enabled.

You serious? Seeing how unpopular multiplayer is how can you even think allowing stat noobs to earn xp while playing agains't bots would be a good idea? That's how multi would die.

Why does it matter? all it means is MORE people "would" be on an even playing field then. You're assuming that playing with bots is somehow "Cheating" when it isn't, people who play with bots are still putting the SAME ammount of time into the game, the SAME ammount of hours playing and unlocking weapons, paints, armor sets as YOU or ANYONE ELSE in multiplayer... and you're assuming again that people who play bots and get XP will all of a sudden hurt the multiplayer of the game? people who play bots will most likely never playing proper multiplayer anyway...... but yet, its okay to PUNISH players who want to game with bots? because thats a frigging good strategy isn't it? People who are playing bots, weren't playing the multiplayer anyway......
G_Sergeant Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:26am 
You can't get xp, because you suck.
vackillers Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by >(*-ScØrcher*-)<:
You can't get xp, because you suck.

I'm godlike..............thanks
Kurtovicz Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:32am 
=VAC=Killers: You forgot a detail, though: While I don't give a damn about XP itself but stats more precisely, playing bots is easier, thus if the only reason you want easy stats on them is because you're a cry-baby loser who leaves the game as long as you realize you have no chance, it sucks. And you know what, ragequitting midgame also ruins everyone's game as you can't rebalance teams, so games can pretty much end 6 vs 2. Moreover, boosting your stats agains't bots set to "easy" and then brag about having some decent k/d ratios defeat the purpose of competition. And it isn't fair for those who desperately try to improve their skills as well, which is also why they didn't allow it.
vackillers Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:41am 
Originally posted by Freepouille:
=VAC=Killers: You forgot a detail, though: While I don't give a damn about XP itself but stats more precisely, playing bots is easier, thus if the only reason you want easy stats on them is because you're a cry-baby loser who leaves the game as long as you realize you have no chance, it sucks. And you know what, ragequitting midgame also ruins everyone's game as you can't rebalance teams, so games can pretty much end 6 vs 2. Moreover, boosting your stats agains't bots set to "easy" and then brag about having some decent k/d ratios defeat the purpose of competition. And it isn't fair for those who desperately try to improve their skills as well, which is also why they didn't allow it.

So you're gonna name call now are we? lol... crybaby? a looser? lol... how about you grow up and get some inteligence and come back with an ACTUAL real argument... BOOSTING stats is easy in the game anyway, thats why there is so many snapmap creations that delibrate give tons of XP... that argument is flawed to the core... only a select FEW REALLY give a fk about stat collection, doom is about killing, you want to be a stat god, go play Battlefield or COD... and Im not talking about stats, I'm talking about unlocks!! EVERYONE knows cheaters and hackers manipulate stats in every game anyway, so the top players in the world are never actually REAL anyway... you are also assuming every player who plays bots is gonna stat boost anyway because you've come across one or two douche bags online..... not EVERY gamer is like that ya know and to pant EVERYONE in the same light is fundermentally flawd and incorrect

You can just disable stats for bot matches... just like they've disabled unlocks for it... but only disabling stats and keeping unlocks is the BETTER option without punishing people who play bots
Last edited by vackillers; Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:44am
SavageBeastZero Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:53am 
Originally posted by =VAC=Killers:
Originally posted by Freepouille:

You serious? Seeing how unpopular multiplayer is how can you even think allowing stat noobs to earn xp while playing agains't bots would be a good idea? That's how multi would die.

Why does it matter? all it means is MORE people "would" be on an even playing field then. You're assuming that playing with bots is somehow "Cheating" when it isn't, people who play with bots are still putting the SAME ammount of time into the game, the SAME ammount of hours playing and unlocking weapons, paints, armor sets as YOU or ANYONE ELSE in multiplayer... and you're assuming again that people who play bots and get XP will all of a sudden hurt the multiplayer of the game? people who play bots will most likely never playing proper multiplayer anyway...... but yet, its okay to PUNISH players who want to game with bots? because thats a frigging good strategy isn't it? People who are playing bots, weren't playing the multiplayer anyway......


There are a few reasons that players gaining XP against bots is simply unfair to the community who legitimately performed their daily grind of playing DOOM multiplayer to reach the echelon they've attained thus far. DOOM is an incredibly competitive multiplayer title and especially so in the first six months of online play. There were countless elite level players battling it out in TDM against other elite level players, making every XP gained, XP earned. Yet, those aren't the players that I'm focusing on here.

Considering those same elite level players were religiously playing multiplayer daily, they eventually amassed communities, thus began to party up to play against the other elite level players. Yet, during this nearly year long period, there were countless new players who would log in and get smashed, day in and day out. Yet they returned over and over again, getting better, slowly, yes but, regardless still getting smashed.

Over the course of this period, these new players eventually became high level echelons, but it took them ages in comparison to myself and other old school arena players. When playing against these players, they gained my respect and others in the community, because of their tenacity. No matter how badly they were getting wrecked, they continued to return, more determined than ever to learn as much about how to master the gameplay as possible, no matter how frustrated they might have been throughout playing their first arena style fps.

They didn't gain it against bots with an adjustable difficulty or custom rule sets in private lobbies, enabling them to "buff" their armor or more. They gained it by dedication, in a genre that's more competitive than any other, against some of the best arena players in the world. So, in my opinion, allowing any players to gain even 1XP against bots in a private lobby against any level of bot, is an insult to them.

They earned theirs legitimately and so should everyone else.
Kurtovicz Dec 9, 2016 @ 10:54am 
=VAC=Killers: It's called speaking from experience, I'm accusing nobody, but that was most likely to happen if it was allowed. You must be one of them seeing how aggressive you became, all of a sudden. Clueless about competition. No wonder since you only have 30 hours of play and you're trying to hold an argument, LOL.
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p0rt Dec 9, 2016 @ 11:04am 
you can still get disconnected from a private match against 11 bots
vackillers Dec 9, 2016 @ 11:05am 
Originally posted by p0rt:
you can still get disconnected from a private match against 11 bots

yes because it's still online....... you still playing bots on an online server.
p0rt Dec 9, 2016 @ 11:08am 
Originally posted by =VAC=Killers:
Originally posted by p0rt:
you can still get disconnected from a private match against 11 bots

yes because it's still online....... you still playing bots on an online server.

waste of bandwidth, bring back listen servers and allow disabling bots, instead of balance teams with tards that can't even pickup power ups, bots in the alpha were better
Last edited by p0rt; Dec 9, 2016 @ 11:10am
vackillers Dec 9, 2016 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by Freepouille:
=VAC=Killers: It's called speaking from experience, I'm accusing nobody, but that was most likely to happen if it was allowed. You must be one of them seeing how aggressive you became, all of a sudden. Clueless about competition. No wonder since you only have 30 hours of play and you're trying to hold an argument, LOL.

Yep I've clocked 30 hours... aaaaaaaaaaaaaand? lol... whats that gotta do with anything? I've played competitive games probably since you were in your diapers actually, since the birth of online gaming... Your arguments are the same ones that get brought up in Unreal Tournament, Battlefield, Quake, and so on and so on.... all proven wrong every time.....

@savagebeast...

but your basically putting all your arguments into one basket, saying because players don't play this game every day like elite players do, that they all of a sudden don't matter, even though they are putting in the same ammount of effort and "GAME TIME" but get absolutely NOTHING for all that time played.... its a totally one-sided argument and anyone who isn't an "Elite" player gets shafted, just because the skill level isn't the same, doesn't mean they are irrelevent all the same...... thats like calling 90% of the player-base irrelevent because of one or two elitists... When you refer to what happened when noobs get into a really competitive match who were clearly not elite, THAT is the gamble everyone takes when playing any online games, you will always get that stuff, no matter if people rank up with bots or not, it makes no difference... your missing the point, suggesting that the time spent is more important when its against players than it is against bots, seperating the entire community into two groups or relevency.... if you ONLY want to play against players who are of equal quallity, then you organize matches... you DONT play randoms......
Last edited by vackillers; Dec 9, 2016 @ 11:16am
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