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as a long time metalhead I was originally sad they didn't go with metal but in dev diaries they said they really wanted to stand out, and they sure did.
the OST has a great industrial feel to it, which correlates with the UAC corridors quite well.
It's pretty sad when a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Printer of all things made better Doom music than the 32X.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG8RAbWs1yo
Or, even better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNTtR6ZpUOo
Ouch, my fillings.
No, that's not for a food forum.
No, it's just different tastes and it's funny that morons can't accept that people have a taste different than their one, so they insult those people and ♥♥♥♥♥ about how they dare to speak their mind
That's the problem.
What do you think you accomplish with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? The OP doesn't like the music. That is his oppinion. You like the stuff, that is your oppinion. Taste isn't an objective thing, everybody likes and dislikes other things.
Grown up people usually can accept that
Non-argument.
Do i listen to more than 5 minutes to know that Justin Bieber is worthless crap? Nope. Same here. 80 minutes of ill-fitting sounding crap is more than enough to know that its ill-fitting and doesn't suit my taste.
Again: My oppinion, my taste. You can't do anything but accept that.
Again, funny considering you have this old, ancient ♥♥♥♥ in your profile:
My loony bun is fine, Benny Lava.
Minor bun engine made Benny Lava.
When was Buffalax popular? 10 years ago or so
When you tell others to go with the time and don't be outdated, you should present yourself as modern, forward thinking and on the latest ♥♥♥♥ meme :)
I didn't say I was the epitome of modern, and I certainly didn't tell anyone to "go with the time" - I love me some Offspring when it's time to party.
Plus, your comment literally calls the soundtrack dated, and thus implies that your preferred music is somehow NOT dated. You literally did what you are accusing me of doing.
But that isn't to say that I also don't know something is dated. Hell, I enjoy Falco, but that doesn't make it something I would want in a video game.
I heard the Quake 1 and 2 soundtracks in a game before. I want something different, and Mick Gordon, especially if you look at the equipment and instruments he used (plus the pentagram you can see in the spectrum), did something different. Something we haven't seen in a game before, especially the level of dynamic responsiveness built into it.
Most of this "ug, it's dubstep" ♥♥♥♥ is from people who have an unreasoning hatred of synths, not realizing that most of the music they listen to has heavy amounts of electronic processining, and if you look at it on a scope, there ain't much difference between a distorted guitar and a distorted synthesizer.
I grew up on Kraftwerk and Led Zeppelin in equal measure - The Covenant and The Kovenant share space on my mixtapes. I like a bit of everything, and I can usually tell when the music came from someone who had a passion for it, and the knowledge/talent to create it.
The Doom OST has talent and passion, and not only that, it both drives and compliments the game. Like a John Williams score, it may not be great art, and it may not be something to listen to ala carte, but it is supremely crafted to evoke or invoke certain emotions to supplement an experience, and by golly gosh-darn, it darn well does it.
Grow up and read my comments to OP again. I will make it easy on you and quote myself.
See? I acknowledge OP's taste and do not disrespect them for it either.
My comments after that:
Again, respecting that OP does not like it. Rest of my posts are basically suggestions to look into the production. You can dislike some music, and still see the work and artistry behind it, you can dislike music and still see how it fits in with a game and why it was made the way it was made.
This is totally an argument. With less then 2 hours of gameplay, I dont think you have a good idea oh how the games music fits in atmospherically over what is a game with about 14hrs to play though.
I do not at all care about your opinion, why do you think it matters to me? You are simply wrong about your claim that this soundtrack is basically 1990's music. But your snarky opinion? I dont care about it and there is no point to discuss with someone so butthurt over nothing.
What you want is what we have had a million times before. Thats fine, you can fear change all you want. It wont change the OST for this game though, you cant do anything but accept that.
Oh i'm sorry, i'm not a millennial who thinks in todays world you have to like, love and appreciate everything and give everything a billion chances until you "like" it.
Yes, yes, i'm one of those persons millennial ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like you call "hater" all the time because they have no arguments but a very hard time accepting other oppinions. Which you have proven now more than enough in this topic.
Everybody else would've just said to me or the OP "different tastes, i like it but there's nothing wrong with thinking otherwise" but for that you have to be a grown up adult, not a kid.
I have the ♥♥♥♥ running again, sorry, it still sucks and it sounds highly dated.
If you didn't care, you wouldn't bother to reply...multiple times.
Do you always contradict your words by your actions?
I'm not, it's industrial and as i said sounds exactly like the industrial stuff you'd hear in some playstation 1 games (trust me, i'm old enough to know). Nothing else and not even good industrial like Godflesh or whatever.
I fear "new stuff" by critisizing this sounds like ♥♥♥♥ i heard so many times before?
ROFL!
That doesn't make any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense at all.
You are beyond pathetic, a typical millennial (and you even play Crap of Duty, rofl) who simply can't accept different oppinions and thinks only what he likes matters and everybody is just "too dumb" or "scared" to like the same stuff.
I never called this dubstep, it isn't. If it was i would've shut down the game immediately.
This isn't different to so much stuff that came before. Heck, Apocalypse on the Playstation 1 had in parts the same industrial sound, same "stop and go" guitar parts.
This isn't anything groundbreaking or new, it's old.
So it doesn't matter if the music is good, all you need to make sure there's a pentagram visible when analyzing the frequencies in a spectrogram and it becomes great music?
The thing is, Mick Gordon made good soundtracks before (Wolfenstein: The New Order, Killer Instinct (S1&2 at least), so it's not like this is some untalented scrub.
But it makes you wonder why instead of going for something more ambient that fits the whole hell theme he stepped down to simple guitar riffs, the typical "stop & go" movement and make everything so generic and bland sounding. Maybe id/Bethesda wanted it that way, it just doesn't suit the game at all and worse: If you listen to it outside the game, it shows just how generic and bland it really is. This isn't an OST you can listen to outside of the game.
Well, make your mind. You can't have it both ways.
Yeah, this guy is trying to make an objective case, when he doesn't have one.
Its fine to have an opinion, but not to couch it as fact, which is what this joker seems to be trying to do.
Todays phrase will be "Learn to read"
I am not saying you must like it, I am saying you didnt give it a chance, with about 7% of the game played.
Learn to read
It's pretty clear your little mind was made up in advance.
And its not about accepting opinions, you are raging more then you are reading. I dont care about your opinion, I just dont think you gave it a chance.
Learn to read
Less rage, calm yourself down, have a wank or whatever, and try read this thread again.
Learn to read
You started with the rage and you have been the one not to accept others opinions.
You dont like this music, and thats so important to you that you have to cry and moan and whine about it? lol
OK, so list some music which it sounds similar to, from before 1999.
Try list some music from a game written for a game
Do this, or shut up entirely as your entire nonsense argument hangs on it.
I dont care about your opinion, that is different then not caring at all and its different again from not wanting to discuss.
You should have paid attention the first time you read this, but you have been too busy raging to think clear.
Learn to read
Look up what a contradiction is too, google the big words before you use them if that helps.
Learn to read
Knowing, appreciating and understanding music does not require an age. 15 year old kids think so, but it does not. Just having electronic elements in your music does not make it industrial, nor was there any requriement that the DOOM OST be industrial. I wouldnt class Godflesh as industrial either, not that this makes it bad. NIN, a popular band which is industrial and has been involved in ID game music before would be a good example of industrial, but only partly, they have a very varied sound, some is even straight pop. Chuck Berry and Godflesh both played rock music, but its hardly all the same. If you are very narrowminded and simple, you might think these classifications matter, and that if it shares the same name, its the same thing. Well its not.
In your old ancient wisdom of PS1 games, list just one game that has a DOOM 2016 style OST.
Zapek made a good point earlier:
Thats why I, and others, find the music fits well. Not because its metal or rock, not because its synths, but because its a good mix and fits the game.
Its like when classical music is used in movies. I wont sit and listen to classical music day to day, but I dont want the OST of 2001: A Space Odyssey changed to thrash metal or whatever. Its great music for a great movie, if fits and it suits its purpose.
You dont even have an opinion here at this point. You say it sucks, sounds dated, then list an example of "good" music by listing bands from the 80/90's, which by definition is now dated?
That makes no sense and shows you are simply in rage mode and not thinking.
Not that dated has to mean bad.
So we get to this,,,,
You heard it before, its dated, so again, give an example of dated music wich sounds like the DOOM OST, please.
Backup your statements and perhaps I could at least respect your opinion. And no, rage is not an opinion.
So in your wise analytical mind I am a typical millennial?
This is how a 15 year old kid thinks, and a dumb one at that. I guess the brand of shoes I wear matters too? And would inform your wisdom? lol
This infantile dumb labling, this cookie cutter view of the world, it's just amazing to me.
And yes, you are clearly dumb. You have demonstrated this again and again with your rage posting and lack of reading comprehension.
So what if I play COD? CODAW is a good game and I have been enjoying that the last two years. Its like a mix of COD and Unreal Tournament.
I am not stuck in my ways, I am not afraid of change, and games of the past do not dissapear. I can still play the old ones, and enjoy new ones.
Before playing CODAW I spent 10 years playing UT2K4, mixed in with UT99. I still play both, just not as much.
Before that it was Quake1, the first game I played online.
Before that I was playing DukeNukem3d on LAN, mostly because i didnt have hardware that would run Quake1
Before that it was Doom1/2 on LAN.
Is that a typical "millennial"? WTF does that even mean?
I am 37 btw. Not that that matters at all. This is a discussion, not Top Trumps.