DOOM
Doom Texture locations?
Hey there everyone. Been trying to get a good image of VEGA for my laptop desktop screen, (named my Laptop VEGA and thought it would be appropriate), but I can't find any images of it higher than 800x500, and it's really fustrating. I was wondering if anyone had found a way to locate and open DOOM's textures. I know most devs purposely make it difficult to prevent work being stolen, so Its ok if no one has figured it out, but I thought I'd ask!
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UNBREAKABLE Apr 15, 2017 @ 10:38pm 
The game uses mega textures, it would be an absolute mess trying to find a specific texture unfortunately
Last edited by UNBREAKABLE; Apr 15, 2017 @ 10:43pm
🅱🅾🆁🅶 Apr 15, 2017 @ 10:56pm 
Good luck looking for it within the game textures lol. The game uses megatextures. It's giant texture s that covers an entire map.

Here's what one looks like
https://mobile.twitter.com/waxzce/status/775698866129760256/photo/3

There is no way to look through that. Not to mention if you uncompress just one megatexture it would be over 200GB in size alone.

The game would be terabytes in size If it weren't for the heavy compression on said megatextures. They are groundbreaking ! This is why modding the game is close to impossible.
Last edited by 🅱🅾🆁🅶; Apr 15, 2017 @ 11:04pm
Hinsonator Apr 16, 2017 @ 5:15pm 
Check the .Wad file that Doom uses, you should be able to find the textures and the various sprites that the game uses.
UNBREAKABLE Apr 16, 2017 @ 6:20pm 
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Check the .Wad file that Doom uses, you should be able to find the textures and the various sprites that the game uses.
Wrong Doom game.
Hinsonator Apr 16, 2017 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Check the .Wad file that Doom uses, you should be able to find the textures and the various sprites that the game uses.
Wrong Doom game.
I'm not so sure, after all there is only one game that can be called just "Doom" and as we all know it's the original. This game of course, is not the original and it is not the 2016th entry in the series, it is the fourth numbered entry in the series which is why i call it Doom 4.

Don't worry though, due to how dumb the marketing team of computer game developers are these days it's understandable to get confused on this as they don't bother numbering things anymore although i personally find it silly that i have to explain something this basic.
Last edited by Hinsonator; Apr 16, 2017 @ 6:27pm
UNBREAKABLE Apr 16, 2017 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:
Wrong Doom game.
I'm not so sure, after all there is only one game that can be called just "Doom" and as we all know it's the original. This game of course, is not the original and it is not the 2016th entry in the series, it is the fourth numbered entry in the series though.

Don't worry though, due to how dumb the marketing team of computer game developers are these days it's understandable to get confused on this as they don't bother numbering things anymore.
Shouldn't be hard to figure out what subforum you're in. The original Doom is not even on steam (only Ultimate Doom).
Last edited by UNBREAKABLE; Apr 16, 2017 @ 6:31pm
Hinsonator Apr 16, 2017 @ 6:34pm 
Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
I'm not so sure, after all there is only one game that can be called just "Doom" and as we all know it's the original. This game of course, is not the original and it is not the 2016th entry in the series, it is the fourth numbered entry in the series though.

Don't worry though, due to how dumb the marketing team of computer game developers are these days it's understandable to get confused on this as they don't bother numbering things anymore.
Shouldn't be hard to figure out what subforum you're in.

Due to the fact that this "subform" is simply called "Doom" i would assume this is for everything Doom even the original.



Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:
The original Doom is not even steam (only The Ultimate Doom)

Sure it is:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2300/

Although for some reason they renamed it to Doom 2 when TUD came out which is basically just a paid expanded version of the shareware demo of the original Doom, you can also get two of the three other expansion packs aswell as TUD as standalones but NRFTL is only avaliable via the shoddy Doom 3 BFG rerelease:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2290/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/9160/

http://store.steampowered.com/app/2280/



Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:
the 2016 version is stylized in caps.

There isn't a 2016 version, there is a 2016 game which is the 4th numbered entry in the series. Also IIRC they did that with Doom 3 (aka Doom 2 for us outside the bouble) aswell.
Last edited by Hinsonator; Apr 16, 2017 @ 7:24pm
Can we stop the title debate? There's plenty of forums for that. :P Just an artist's rendition would be nice. I'm good with pencils and ink, but I'm crap with digital art otherwise i'd do it myself.
rawWwRrr Apr 16, 2017 @ 8:54pm 
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by UNBREAKABLE:
the 2016 version is stylized in caps.

There isn't a 2016 version, there is a 2016 game which is the 4th numbered entry in the series. Also IIRC they did that with Doom 3 (aka Doom 2 for us outside the bouble) aswell.
Except the Doom released in 2016 wasn't numbered, and that's what you fail to understand. If we use your logic of renaming Doom to Doom 4, then we should probably call it Doom 6 since there were a couple of releases between Doom 2 and Doom 3. Or do we rename Doom 3 to Doom 5 now? You know, because Doom's naming convention needs to conform to your vision of it?
Last edited by rawWwRrr; Apr 16, 2017 @ 8:54pm
Hinsonator Apr 16, 2017 @ 9:01pm 
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:


There isn't a 2016 version, there is a 2016 game which is the 4th numbered entry in the series. Also IIRC they did that with Doom 3 (aka Doom 2 for us outside the bouble) aswell.
Except the Doom released in 2016 wasn't numbered

Doesn't stop you from numbering it yourself in your head with your imagination, assuming you have one of course.

Not to mention people looking back would wonder why there are two games with the exact same name with the only difference being the release date. Most people would assume that they would be the same game, much like how Doom and Shareware Doom and the expanded and paid for version of SWD aka The Ultimate (Shareware) Doom have different names.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
and that's what you fail to understand.

That you lack an imagination? I don't think that's too hard to understand.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
If we use your logic of renaming Doom to Doom 4, then we should probably call it Doom 6 since there were a couple of releases between Doom 2 and Doom 3.

They weren't numbered, much like how every single Sonic Game between Sonic and the Flames of disaster (then Sonic 4) were not numbered like Sonic through Sonic 3. Same with Need For Speed and Age of Empires.

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
then we should probably call it Doom 6 since there were a couple of releases between Doom 2 and Doom 3.

Actually most of those games were released after Doom 3 in the grand scheme of things like Doom Absolution (aka Doom 64) not to mention that if we were to go by my logic then "Doom 2" would simply be called Doom and Doom 3 would actually be called Doom 2.


Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
You know, because Doom's naming convention needs to conform to your vision of it?

My version of Doom's naming converion is the only version of Doom's naming convention. Wanna know why? Well i'll explain later if i feel like it.
Last edited by Hinsonator; Apr 16, 2017 @ 10:35pm
Originally posted by 🅱🅾🆁🅶:
Good luck looking for it within the game textures lol. The game uses megatextures. It's giant texture s that covers an entire map.

Here's what one looks like
https://mobile.twitter.com/waxzce/status/775698866129760256/photo/3

There is no way to look through that. Not to mention if you uncompress just one megatexture it would be over 200GB in size alone.

The game would be terabytes in size If it weren't for the heavy compression on said megatextures. They are groundbreaking ! This is why modding the game is close to impossible.

I understand the storage issue, but why has noone tried?
rawWwRrr Apr 16, 2017 @ 10:31pm 
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Except the Doom released in 2016 wasn't numbered

Doesn't stop you from numbering it yourself in your head with your imagination, assuming you have one of course.

But that's never been your argument. You're insisting on calling it a different name because that's what you say it SHOULD be named in order to understand which one you're referring to. Use your imagination anyway you want, but calling it Doom 4 is simply more confusing given that Doom 4 was a thing that never happened. Doom and Doom 4 are two entirely different games.

Do you intend on calling the next Prey release as Prey 2 then? Because they had a Prey 2 that got cancelled and instead they are releasing another game called Prey? Because after all these years we might suddenly get confused that new release might actually be the old game and not a new one?

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Not to mention people looking back would wonder why there are two games with the exact same name with the only difference being the release date.

Oceans 11.

Casino Royale.

Ghostbusters.

Star Trek.

Robocop.

Planet Of The Apes.

No one seems very confused over these movie releases having the exact same name as the originals. Why would everyone suddenly stop in their tracks because of Doom?

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
and that's what you fail to understand.
That you lack an imagination? I don't think that's too hard to understand.
Quotes out of context and spun around to a personal attack. How original. /s

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
If we use your logic of renaming Doom to Doom 4, then we should probably call it Doom 6 since there were a couple of releases between Doom 2 and Doom 3.

They weren't numbered,
Exactly.... just like Doom. Thanks for agreeing with my point, finally.

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
then we should probably call it Doom 6 since there were a couple of releases between Doom 2 and Doom 3.

Actually most of those games were released after Doom 3 in the gran scheme of things like Doom Absolution (aka Doom 64) not to mention that if we were to go by my logic then "Doom 2" would simply be called Doom and Doom 2 would actually be called Doom 2.
Doom Absolution wasn't released. There was a Doom 64 though. Are you confused over that as well?

Doom - 1993
Doom II - 1994
Final Doom - 1996
Doom 64 - 1997
Doom 3 - 2004

How were those games released after Doom 3? Or are you trying to include the mobile only spin-off games as well?

And now you're calling Doom 2 by two different names. Are you even paying attention to your own logic?

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
You know, because Doom's naming convention needs to conform to your vision of it?

My version of Doom's naming converion is the only version of Doom's naming convention.
Exactly why it's still wrong. It's YOUR naming convention to call it Doom 4. Doesn't make it correct.

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Wanna know why? Well i'll explain later if i feel like it.
Don't bother explaining further. You're still wrong.
Hinsonator Apr 16, 2017 @ 11:13pm 
Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:

Doesn't stop you from numbering it yourself in your head with your imagination, assuming you have one of course.

But that's never been your argument.

In your head maybie but not in the real world.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
You're insisting on calling it a different name because that's what you say it SHOULD be named in order to understand which one you're referring to.

I'm insisting on call it that because it's less missleading (not to mention potentially less confusing) than calling it Doom 2016 which suggests that it's either the 2016th release or it's the same game as the 1994 original.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Use your imagination anyway you want, but calling it Doom 4 is simply more confusing given that Doom 4 was a thing that never happened.

Actually it won't, as people would be focused on the Doom 4 that we got. I mean there is a long list of cut content i could list from the original Doom and it's expansions but nobody talks about that now do they?



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Do you intend on calling the next Prey release as Prey 2 then? Because they had a Prey 2 that got cancelled and instead they are releasing another game called Prey? Because after all these years we might suddenly get confused that new release might actually be the old game and not a new one?

Gee, bonus points for stating the obvious buddy.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Not to mention people looking back would wonder why there are two games with the exact same name with the only difference being the release date.

Oceans 11.

Casino Royale.

Ghostbusters.

Star Trek.

Robocop.

Planet Of The Apes.

No one seems very confused over these movie releases having the exact same name as the originals. Why would everyone suddenly stop in their tracks because of Doom?

Probably because nobody talks about the originals, that or they are the originals?



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:

They weren't numbered, much like how every single Sonic Game between Sonic and the Flames of disaster (then Sonic 4) were not numbered like Sonic through Sonic 3. Same with Need For Speed and Age of Empires.
Exactly.... just like Doom. Thanks for agreeing with my point, finally.

I find it ironic that you also put this in your post despite doing the exact same thing to me:

Originally posted by rawWwRrr:

Originally posted by Hinsonator:
That you lack an imagination? I don't think that's too hard to understand.
Quotes out of context and spun around to a personal attack. How original. /s

To actually adress your point though, i was reffering to D:A and D:RPG and not RoE, not to mention the whole Quake series but more on Doom's relation to Quake in the future. That said, i'm not entirely sure why that isn't a reason for people to call this game Doom 4.





Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:

Actually most of those games were released after Doom 3 in the gran scheme of things like Doom Absolution (aka Doom 64) not to mention that if we were to go by my logic then "Doom 2" would simply be called Doom and Doom 3 would actually be called Doom 2.
Doom Absolution wasn't released. There was a Doom 64 though. Are you confused over that as well?

Unofficially D64 is D:A, or at least that's what i've heard. That said, it isn't hard to get confused by someone like you due to how contradictory you seem to be.




Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Doom - 1993
Doom II - 1994
Final Doom - 1996
Doom 64 - 1997
Doom 3 - 2004

Correction:

Doom Shareware - 1993
Doom - 1994
The Ultimate Doom box collection (The Ultimate Shareware Doom, Doom (renamed in that pack as "Doom 2") and two magawads worth of cut levels that were polished and sold as their own thing known as Final Doom aswell as some early Doom 2 features) - 2002
Doom 2 - 2004
Doom Absolution and a DoomsDay source port-based Doom "remake"- 2006
Doom 64 - 2008



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
How were those games released after Doom 3?

As there is no offical information i'm not inclined to say.


Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Or are you trying to include the mobile only spin-off games as well?

As Jedi Master Yoda from Star Wars II: An Empire Strikes Back would say:

Originally posted by Yoda:
Try not, Do or do not there is no try.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
And now you're calling Doom 2 by two different names.

I see you're editing my quotes, that really doesn't help your argument.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Are you even paying attention to your own logic?

I don't think you're in a position to make such a statement.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:

My version of Doom's naming converion is the only version of Doom's naming convention.
Exactly why it's still wrong.

Actually that doesn't proove anything other than the fact you're having trouble covering your ass on many fronts.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
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It's YOUR naming convention to call it Doom 4.

It's also your naming convention to call it the original aswell as saying that it is the exact same game as the original 1994 release.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Doesn't make it correct.

That comment goes both ways pal.



Originally posted by rawWwRrr:
Originally posted by Hinsonator:
Wanna know why? Well i'll explain later if i feel like it.
Don't bother explaining further.

You're right, it'll probably go streight over both your brain and your head.
Last edited by Hinsonator; Apr 17, 2017 @ 1:05am
Crowbaria Apr 16, 2017 @ 11:50pm 
You mean the vega core?
Salamand3r- Apr 17, 2017 @ 5:52am 
Hinsonator, I can only conclude that you are not a native English speaker -

Including (2016) paranthetically is a standard convention indicating the year of release.

It is used universally to differentiate various forms of media, even in cases where there may not be nominal conflicts.

Hit up IMDB to see it in common usage.
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