Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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A Womans Lot is a noob trap
I'm new to this game, and wanted to get into it after people were raving about how good KCD 2 is. I was having a lot of fun up until I accidentally started A Womans Lot. There's no indication to a new player that you're about to start 3 hours of non-henry adventures, as a woman who's worse than Henry at everything. I appreciated the storytelling, but I had to look up guides to get through it and get back to Henry, so I rushed through what could've been a good DLC if I knew what I signed up for.

Warhorse needs to put in a warning for new players when you're in a position to start this DLC.
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fracs Mar 8 @ 7:03am 
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
when you're in a position to start this DLC.
you cant load previous save?
Originally posted by fracs:
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
when you're in a position to start this DLC.
you cant load previous save?
I went through almost the entire thing not realising it was a DLC meant for advanced players.
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
Warhorse needs to put in a warning for new players when you're in a position to start this DLC.
I thought there was a clear warning, Theresa clearly states sometihng about lenghty story and if Henry is sure that he is ready to listen to in, was it not?
Originally posted by Cadaver747:
I thought there was a clear warning, Theresa clearly states sometihng about lenghty story and if Henry is sure that he is ready to listen to in, was it not?

In TC's defense, if you don't know what the DLC symbol means then you might go into Theresa's story out of curiosity. That's what happened to me the first time I went in.
Aethrys Mar 8 @ 8:09am 
I'd say it's perfectly placed, because the whole game up to that point has emphasized the limitations of an untrained character. It is more jarring to go from late game Henry.
Kabirbd Mar 8 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
Originally posted by fracs:
you cant load previous save?
I went through almost the entire thing not realising it was a DLC meant for advanced players.
That is a very incorrect statement to make.
It's a simple dlc giving some story info from the perspective someone else other than Henry. It gives some context to what was happening few days before the attack on Skalitz.
I would even say it's better to play this dlc early because at that point, Henry and Theresa are similar in skill level whereas late game Henry is too strong and players will suddenly feel weak going from mid-late game Henry to starting Theresa.
I would strongly advise to complete every DLC quest the moment you see it - I beat the game for the first time and I thought that it was a good idea to postpone them until I heal people, and after a while everything went havok, now completing them makes absolutely no sense. And it seems that Pestilence quest is linked to A Womans Lot because it was not completed even in Epilogue, and those patients lying in dormitory despite the completion status in journal, nothing happens and Johanka ignores me.

I think that for the best gaming experience A Woman's Lot DLC should be started immediately after Prologue. However the very 1st Miller's quest is more important, in my case my Saviour Shcnapps saves didn't work (didn't register) until I get him what he wanted and it's pretty easy to complete.

Courtship quest should be started almost immediately as well. In my case some crazy ass peasant assaulted the Knight in full plate armor with Lord of Leipa bannerhoff with bare hands - one of the worst immersion breaking moments for me.

And above all - do ALL 3 Miller quests!

KCD is a marvelous game, the side quests are absolutely the best, but the person who designed it that way could have done a better work, at least to make a particular quest to autofail the moment the next Main quest is started and NOT until after 5 more Main quests further without any way to complete it during that *waiting* time lengh. Very bad design choice ;(

Anyway - do ALL the DLCs, side quests and activities (at least 3 activities will stay forever after completion) and only then proceed to the Main line quests. I wish I'd known that, my game experience is completely ruined.

And there is Rattay Tourney DLC - it's hard to get into it until you master your weapon at least to Level 5 and unlock a special technique, however in order to receive a bit more content I would advise to explore a world around, because you might find something related to it, before entering.
Last edited by Cadaver747; Mar 8 @ 8:49am
Hobbes Mar 8 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Cadaver747:
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
Warhorse needs to put in a warning for new players when you're in a position to start this DLC.
I thought there was a clear warning, Theresa clearly states sometihng about lenghty story and if Henry is sure that he is ready to listen to in, was it not?
They say that in a lot of rpgs and it usually means they're just gonna yap a lot. Not start a whole quest from their POV lol...

I was also caught in this trap, chatting to Theressa and next thing I know I'm trapped in this quest. It just keeps going. If she's telling us how she escaped, why was such a big portion of it her going on about the day before. I've closed the game for now to take a break because it was boring me half to death.
Last edited by Hobbes; Mar 8 @ 11:37pm
fracs Mar 8 @ 11:41pm 
Originally posted by Hobbes:
Originally posted by Cadaver747:
I thought there was a clear warning, Theresa clearly states sometihng about lenghty story and if Henry is sure that he is ready to listen to in, was it not?
They say that in a lot of rpgs and it usually means they're just gonna yap a lot. Not start a whole quest from their POV lol...

I was also caught in this trap, chatting to Theressa and next thing I know I'm trapped in this quest. It just keeps going. If she's telling us how she escaped, why was such a big portion of it her going on about the day before. I've closed the game for now to take a break because it was boring me half to death.
why do u refuse to load previous save?
Hobbes Mar 8 @ 11:46pm 
Originally posted by fracs:
Originally posted by Hobbes:
They say that in a lot of rpgs and it usually means they're just gonna yap a lot. Not start a whole quest from their POV lol...

I was also caught in this trap, chatting to Theressa and next thing I know I'm trapped in this quest. It just keeps going. If she's telling us how she escaped, why was such a big portion of it her going on about the day before. I've closed the game for now to take a break because it was boring me half to death.
why do u refuse to load previous save?
I didn't realise it was a DLC quest, I was just chatting to her and going through the options and when I started playing as her I didn't realise it was going to go on for so long once. Now I'm in too deep.
Last edited by Hobbes; Mar 8 @ 11:46pm
2GenL Mar 9 @ 1:48am 
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
I'm new to this game, and wanted to get into it after people were raving about how good KCD 2 is. I was having a lot of fun up until I accidentally started A Womans Lot. There's no indication to a new player that you're about to start 3 hours of non-henry adventures, as a woman who's worse than Henry at everything. I appreciated the storytelling, but I had to look up guides to get through it and get back to Henry, so I rushed through what could've been a good DLC if I knew what I signed up for.

Warhorse needs to put in a warning for new players when you're in a position to start this DLC.
DLC symbol on the speech option...

Dont go round spamming E and space bar to skip dialog
Originally posted by Hobbes:
I didn't realise it was a DLC quest, I was just chatting to her and going through the options and when I started playing as her I didn't realise it was going to go on for so long once. Now I'm in too deep.
Hmm, Warhorse clearly pause the game the first time you try to leave Miller's house, showing all the DLCs icons with short explanation and in order to proceed you'll have to press and hold ESC (if playing on keyboard / mouse).

And when you speak with Theresa that specific dialogue line marked with DLC icon.

I mean it's impossible to know what kind of DLC it is but it's also impossible to not see the DLC mark there in a dialogue. It's the 4th and last story DLC released and it's long, yeah, yet it should be started immediately for the best experience, plus it's some kind of Extended Tutorial, as far as I remember the first thing to do there was to harvest some vegetables, and Theresa links you to Johanka and her quests.

But I will not say more, there is no point anyway to prove anything.
Hobbes Mar 9 @ 6:29am 
Originally posted by 2GenL:
DLC symbol on the speech option...

Dont go round spamming E and space bar to skip dialog
I didn't realise what that marker was. Apologies for not memorising what each and every symbol meant, in a game full of information being thrown at you. :rfacepalm: :yygSad:
Last edited by Hobbes; Mar 9 @ 6:49am
Aethrys Mar 9 @ 7:25am 
Originally posted by Hobbes:
Originally posted by 2GenL:
DLC symbol on the speech option...

Dont go round spamming E and space bar to skip dialog
I didn't realise what that marker was. Apologies for not memorising what each and every symbol meant, in a game full of information being thrown at you. :rfacepalm: :yygSad:
Seek your penance by dressing in sack cloth and walking to Uzhitz barefoot.
Shella Mar 9 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by OSAMA ZYN LADEN:
Warhorse needs to put in a warning for new players when you're in a position to start this DLC.

There are 3 warnings for this DLC:
1.) Tutorial message pausing the game explaining what the icons mean
2.) DLC icon to the right of the dialogue option
3.) Theresa asking you if you're sure you want to continue as it's a long story

The only way to "accidentally" start this DLC is by not reading and/or skipping the tutorial messages and dialogue options.
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