Is Henry a Knight or a Squire? (at end of story)

[Princess of Dumbasses]

at the end is He a knight or a Squire of Capon? or was he just a Man At Arms under Radzig?

still a bit confused on this its been years since i last finished the game.

[Mike]

He is a Radzig's bastard for sure, and, as Radzig acknowledged him as his son, it makes him a knight by berth.

[Judeo-communism]

Originally posted by Mike:

He is a Radzig's bastard for sure, and, as Radzig acknowledged him as his son, it makes him a knight by berth.

Well he hasn't been officially knighted yet, birth alone isn't enough, he's just a noble son of a lord

[Actalo]

Henry is a Man-At-Arms serving in the role of a Squire to Sir Hans Capon, who is a Knight. It's possible he was appointed Squire, but this is usually a role reserved for aristocratic boys training for Knighthood.

A man-at-arms is qualified and paid soldier in service to a Lord but not part of the aristocracy. A free man, not a serf, most likely a yeoman.

[cavaleirodotemplo]

he is a villain, an intermediate social class between noble and peasant

[Valden21]

If I had to guess, I'd say he's a man-at-arms. Even though he's of noble birth, that doesn't automatically make him a knight. Historically, there were two ways to become a knight. The classical one, the one that everybody knows, involves first completing their training as a page and them completing their training as a squire. That's a multi-year process, involving training in VERY specific fields of study; Henry's only trained in SOME of those fields, not all of them. That leaves only the second method, which is being knighted on the battlefield. We don't see that happen, so at the end of the story, he's still a man-at-arms.

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by cavaleirodotemplo:

he is a villain, an intermediate social class between noble and peasant

Band of Bastards and Robber Baron were good indicators of where Henry would end up if he didn't have a Liege with Money.

[HunterSouls]

Well some peasants or traders call him "Knight" if get proper armor. I believe after save that young Lord, he gets the right being Squire, not mention Sir "Radzig acknowledged him as his son". On the KCD 2 he became recognize as a knight! I think in the 1st KCD it´s reasonable call him Knight-Errant .

[Valden21]

Originally posted by HunterSouls:

Well some peasants or traders call him "Knight" if get proper armor. I believe after save that young Lord, he gets the right being Squire, not mention Sir "Radzig acknowledged him as his son". On the KCD 2 he became recognize as a knight! I think in the 1st KCD it´s reasonable call him Knight-Errant .

That's a good point, if my suspicions about that sword are correct. I've always felt that SIr Radzig commissioned Martin to forge that sword as a gift for Henry.

[SympliKrazi]

Originally posted by Valden21:

Originally posted by HunterSouls:

Well some peasants or traders call him "Knight" if get proper armor. I believe after save that young Lord, he gets the right being Squire, not mention Sir "Radzig acknowledged him as his son". On the KCD 2 he became recognize as a knight! I think in the 1st KCD it´s reasonable call him Knight-Errant .

That's a good point, if my suspicions about that sword are correct. I've always felt that SIr Radzig commissioned Martin to forge that sword as a gift for Henry.

If skalitz was not sacked or at least the father blacksmith was to survive, that would be rather wierd, being the operating father, to have the weapon that you hand crafted for a lord to be gifted to your son. Basically a slap in the face. I can't imagine Radzig being that callous and inconsiderate.

Edit: Unless he intentionally wanted to slight his favorite blacksmith or is a complete dolt of a lord.

[HunterSouls]

Originally posted by SympliKrazi:

Originally posted by Valden21:

That's a good point, if my suspicions about that sword are correct. I've always felt that SIr Radzig commissioned Martin to forge that sword as a gift for Henry.

If skalitz was not sacked or at least the father blacksmith was to survive, that would be rather wierd, being the operating father, to have the weapon that you hand crafted for a lord to be gifted to your son. Basically a slap in the face. I can't imagine Radzig being that callous and inconsiderate.

Edit: Unless he intentionally wanted to slight his favorite blacksmith or is a complete dolt of a lord.

If pay attention the dead father of Henry was before a great warrior, so doesn´t matter if was skalitz was sacked or not;

[Humble]

Originally posted by Actalo:

Henry is a Man-At-Arms serving in the role of a Squire to Sir Hans Capon, who is a Knight. It's possible he was appointed Squire, but this is usually a role reserved for aristocratic boys training for Knighthood.

A man-at-arms is qualified and paid soldier in service to a Lord but not part of the aristocracy. A free man, not a serf, most likely a yeoman.

I agree with this one, I don't recall Henry is knight, but he might seem as knight/lord unofficially , but everyone do not take that serious, it's more of teasing in KC1 but they do take Henry serious as warrior or should be at least, so man-at-Arms, KC2 might make officially but KC1 is where Henry young, so I agree Henry is sort of Sir Hans Capon's Squire/man-at-arms, but I play KC1 again to see if I don't miss anything.

If one had DLC, he might learn how to do as steward and taking care small village where he rebuild in pribyslavitz for Talmberg, so all those skill could lead Henry to knight and lord in KC2 maybe, but who know. Knight do command small land to take care small village/town. But it's more of in training and unofficially, not officially.

But Henry is free man, he wander and do whatever he want in KC1 so yeah, yeoman/man at arm would make sense for Henry, had a full armor do not make person knight, knight is just government system royal title that he had not earn yet.

It's might be look like knight, act like knight, but only officially vs unofficially or in training.

[Valden21]

Originally posted by SympliKrazi:

Originally posted by Valden21:

That's a good point, if my suspicions about that sword are correct. I've always felt that SIr Radzig commissioned Martin to forge that sword as a gift for Henry.

If skalitz was not sacked or at least the father blacksmith was to survive, that would be rather wierd, being the operating father, to have the weapon that you hand crafted for a lord to be gifted to your son. Basically a slap in the face. I can't imagine Radzig being that callous and inconsiderate.

Edit: Unless he intentionally wanted to slight his favorite blacksmith or is a complete dolt of a lord.

A slap in the face by CURRENT standards. But back then? Things would have been different.

[The0lexx]

Originally posted by SympliKrazi:

Originally posted by Valden21:

That's a good point, if my suspicions about that sword are correct. I've always felt that SIr Radzig commissioned Martin to forge that sword as a gift for Henry.

If skalitz was not sacked or at least the father blacksmith was to survive, that would be rather wierd, being the operating father, to have the weapon that you hand crafted for a lord to be gifted to your son. Basically a slap in the face. I can't imagine Radzig being that callous and inconsiderate.

Edit: Unless he intentionally wanted to slight his favorite blacksmith or is a complete dolt of a lord.

Crazy bro was 100% right watch the end of kcd 2

[2GenL]

Originally posted by Princess of Dumbasses:

at the end is He a knight or a Squire of Capon? or was he just a Man At Arms under Radzig?

still a bit confused on this its been years since i last finished the game.

Neither.

A knight technically due to noble birth. But a bastard son, so doesnt have the rights of a noble

[Humble]

He is just mainly under Radzig's garrison or Skalice garrison, Radzig is a Henry's liege Lord, (and son after Henry's parent killed).

I guess Radzig loan to Capon as his soldier/men at arms (Henry) as Capon's bodyguard to learn way of noble, you could said Henry is kind of squire of Capon for short term in unofficially but officially Henry is just man in arm or Skalice/Radzig's Garrison as it's Herny's got reward for join in Kingdom come 1 ever since.

(I believe Main Quest called The prey in Kingdom come 1 at end, where Henry save Capon, then it's officially Henry part of Skalice/Radzig's Garrison and it's had not been change or promotion ever since that time, so even in kingdom come 2, he is still part of officailly Radzig's Garrison. or know as Skalice's Garrison even although village of Skalice is in ruined.)