Worst melee combat of any game

[Electroflux]

EDIT: After consideration of the following posters, I'm still not fancy about the combat system but I judged too harshly on the early part of the game. I don't think it's as bad as I originally thought, but I also hope for better improvements on the next game in certain aspects

[Darth Revan]

i strongly disagree, the combat in this game is quite good, all you need is training, just like in real life and just like it is supposed to be.

[Electroflux]

Originally posted by Legatus Lucanus:

i strongly disagree, the combat in this game is quite good, all you need is training, just like in real life and just like it is supposed to be.

right, the training that doesn't matter at all anyway when you can just stealth kill everyone at night or insta-gib them with a bow. sorry, the melee combat is steaming trash and the other options FAR outweigh the time required and benefits of melee.

[vine]

right, another one of the luminaries :) combat works perfectly in terms of what devs intended, feel free to check the free movies called Fechtbuch to know why it works this way.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Jinshushei:

I'm sorry, but please for the love of god, change the combat in the next game. This is the worst/most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ melee combat system I have ever seen.

Is this a Pino Noir or just Boone's Farm?

[Dresten]

I love the setting and the game world but I have to agree I just can not get past the combat. I get the aspect of training and Henry is not good at anything etc etc but it is clunky and just frustrating as hell. I have attempted to kill two bandits for a early quest and have even snuck up and landed 8 plus hits on a guys back without killing him. I block, riposte try to combo but eventually I get staggered somehow and they land a combo with bleeding and its over. Also have no idea how much HP enemies have but it seems outrageous and if there is more than one guy to fight.. man is that clunky and frustrating. Think I have to step away from this for a while lol

[CapuchinSeven]

It's not for everyone, some love it (mostly people that give it time) some hate it, most can accept it has flaws (mostly in its implementation of 1vX but that gets better as you get better armour and better armour cracking weapons which to be fair isn't totally dissimilar to real life; that said it can feel clunky in 1vX).

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Jinshushei:

I'm sorry, but please for the love of god, change the combat in the next game. This is the worst/most ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ melee combat system I have ever seen.

First we need to know how long you've been playing this game? And then what level you're at.

There are many Youtube videos that can, if you're open to it, show you clearly that you're wrong. Or just haven't tried.

This one was made in 2018 not too long after release and well before the 1.9 update, and the player was only at level11:

https://youtu.be/RaP6dVSgRJw

And in this one the player is in hard core mode and only at level 9.

https://youtu.be/9TePJ_tN_QI

another video shows Henry taking on 13 players at once.

99% of everyone who plays this game initially experiences the same frustration as you did.

You either learn or go back to Skyrim...your choice.

[AestheticallyOP]

Honestly, I can take 5 bandits or cumans at the same time without dying and taking minimal demage.
I see how the combat can be janky. Yet once you get familiar with the jankyness you can pretty much pass it.
Movement and keep switching locking priority helps a lot especially when fighting more than
one enemy.

Also check your weapons and see if they are adapted to the minimal stats you need for it.
The game often keeps repeating IF YOUR STATS ARE TOO LOW SOME WEAPONS WILL NOT DO THE DEMAGE IT'S INTENTED TO.
But yeah some of you tend to skip tutorials and tips.
Also some weapons are simply trash when it comes to defeating guys with a bit of armor.

Learn to par, Bernard literally tells you how to do it if you at least cared to listen a little bit.

Press Block to alling the sword with the enemy, keep doing it until he start swaying then you can par the strike. Secondly once you reach a certain level in combat or with your weapon you can still ask Bernard to learn master strikes, meaning every succesfull par will make Henry stab or punch the enemy taking a bit of it's health.

[AestheticallyOP]

Also bandits in KCD are not the same as bandits in any other game. Some bandits are even stronger than cumans and have better armor.

[EA Latium]

Combat is fantastic, like it or not it's one of the things that makes KCD what it is.

If you have less than 10 hours probably you haven't even got to learn the basics, both in-game and as a player.

[.KsE]

500 hours.
Melee combat sucks.
Get over it fanbois.

Yes, i can fight 1vX with ease - it still sucks.
Like some people said: Most of the time u fast equip your bow and kill 2-3 guys before they even reach you in a few seconds - while fighting melee consumes much more time and is sometimes a pain in the ass with targets switching.
oh and of course - as soon as you turn your back to your enemys and run - they get super sonic speed and can hit you without problems - unrealistic af.

As i said - Np to fight 5-8 guys but in comparison to bow and others things its just stupid.

How can people say 'it works perfectly' - because it doesn't, it has flaws - get over it.

[EA Latium]

Originally posted by .KsE™:

500 hours.
Melee combat sucks.
Get over it fanbois.

Yes, i can fight 1vX with ease - it still sucks.
Like some people said: Most of the time u fast equip your bow and kill 2-3 guys before they even reach you in a few seconds - while fighting melee consumes much more time and is sometimes a pain in the ass with targets switching.
oh and of course - as soon as you turn your back to your enemys and run - they get super sonic speed and can hit you without problems - unrealistic af.

As i said - Np to fight 5-8 guys but in comparison to bow and others things its just stupid.

How can people say 'it works perfectly' - because it doesn't, it has flaws - get over it.

Ah the fanboy card, threads always go well after playing it.

When you run enemies can "tackle" you too, armour, stats and perks all play a role here; would be more unrealistic being able to outrun them easily.

Note how above @vine said "combat works perfectly in terms of what devs intended", context is important.

Originally posted by syph3r:

so i'm on the fence fellas, how's the combat, really? thanks!

It's great, not for everyone but if you like the concept you'll enjoy it.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by EA Latium:

Originally posted by syph3r:

so i'm on the fence fellas, how's the combat, really? thanks!

It's great, not for everyone but if you like the concept you'll enjoy it.

If you like a challenge you'll enjoy it. if you like the immersion, you'll enjoy it. If you can focus, you'll enjoy it. If you can learn, you'll enjoy it. If you can be patient, you'll enjoy it.

if you want to be an imaginary super-hero, and you want it right now: if you get easily frustrated and tend to quit or break things, you're probably better off bowling.

[MacSuibhne]

And for those with short attentions spans or who didn't get a good night's sleep, the game tells you, multiple times, (even in the loading screens) to run if outnumbered.

And the game gives you multiple ways to problem solve.

[Electroflux]

yea, i'm still not convinced. i'll stick with stealth kills and bow (just like skyrim, for whoever mentioned it before LUL) because it's 100x more effective in every situation than it is fighting over this jank ass melee combat system.