PSA: The Heavy Swing perk still only gives a 3% damage increase 5 years after being reported

[Gregarius]

...and it only needs to change one number to fix it.

First reported by harlath in 2019: https://forum.kingdomcomerpg.com/t/heavy-swing-perk-looks-like-it-is-only-3-damage-rather-than-stated-20/63978

The bugged line is in Data/Tables.pak/Libs/Tables/rpg/buff.xml at line 213:

 <row buff_ai_tag_id="" buff_class_id="4" buff_desc="buff_heavy_swing_desc" buff_exclusivity_id="1" buff_id="74213ddf-7a92-4a49-ae40-dca43e179197" buff_lifetime_id="1" buff_name="perk_heavy_swing" buff_ui_name="" buff_ui_order="" buff_ui_type_id="4" buff_ui_visibility_id="" duration="-1" icon_id="0" implementation="Cpp:StrengthWeaponBuff" is_persistent="True" params="wat*1.03,wac*1.1" slot_buff_ui_name="" slot_icon_id="" visual_effect="" />

The problem being params="wat*1.03,wac*1.1"

"wat" stands for Weapon Attack and "wac" stands for Weapon Attack Cost ( https://wiki.nexusmods.com/index.php/RPG_stats_in_KCD )

This means that having the Heavy Swing perk increases the stamina cost (wac) of your swings by +10%, but only increases their damage (wat) by +3%, which is almost nothing. With stamina being so hugely important for combat, taking this perk means giving yourself a fairly significant combat nerf while using any strength-based weapon.

Since most Google searches on Heavy Swing (wiki and discussions) seem to agree that it should be a 20% damage increase, it should be fixed to params="wat*1.2,wac*1.1".

At the moment, this can only be fixed manually by editing the file mentioned above, as I haven't found any mods that fix this issue.

[Lucerne]

How do you even come across this? Are there really people in this community that just go through every file in the game directory all day to find stuff like this?

[2GenL]

If you change it yourself, would that solve it?

[Four Little Diamonds]

Originally posted by Lucerne:

How do you even come across this? Are there really people in this community that just go through every file in the game directory all day to find stuff like this?

That is how mods are created.

[Gregarius]

Originally posted by 2GenL:

If you change it yourself, would that solve it?

Yes, although if the file is overwritten by an official update, the change will revert. Since the game is fairly old and I don't think we're getting updates anymore, it should be fine.

To be 99% safe, though, it'd be better to fix this with a mod, since the mod will take priority over an official update.

I was looking around for an unofficial community patch like the ones from Bethesda games since there's also quite a few spelling and grammar issues still in the game, but I guess there isn't one. This fix would be a nice addition for it.

[2GenL]

Originally posted by Gregarius:

Originally posted by 2GenL:

If you change it yourself, would that solve it?

Yes, although if the file is overwritten by an official update, the change will revert. Since the game is fairly old and I don't think we're getting updates anymore, it should be fine.

To be 99% safe, though, it'd be better to fix this with a mod, since the mod will take priority over an official update.

I was looking around for an unofficial community patch like the ones from Bethesda games since there's also quite a few spelling and grammar issues still in the game, but I guess there isn't one. This fix would be a nice addition for it.

I'll make the change and create a back up folder in case... Chances are kcd wont get an update in a long while tbh

[Bandy]

Originally posted by 2GenL:

I'll make the change and create a back up folder in case... Chances are kcd wont get an update in a long while tbh

Always back stuff like that up, beware steam valid game files will overwrite your install with vanilla game files.

And, the other statement "kcd won't get update in long while"??? Kidding right?

EDIT: thanks OP, interesting thread, got to wonder how many other silent bugs in there, just like witcher 3...

[Teal'c]

how do you edit the pak file tho?

[Larus]

Originally posted by Teal'c:

how do you edit the pak file tho?

You can open the .pak file with something like 7-zip, navigate to the .xml file and edit it with notepad. Don't even need to unpack it.

[DeathRow]

Interesting, when will this get fixed?

[xybolt]

Originally posted by DeathRow:

Interesting, when will this get fixed?

the dev team are working on a follow up on this game. I would be surprised that a patch would be issued to fix this minor issue. It does not break your game after all.

Since there is a workaround, you can correct it yourself.