nest of vipers is ♥♥♥♥ing impossible

[Jack Niggleson]

Seriously, impossible. The disguise is worthless, attempting any sort of sabotage gets you instantly seen, through walls, across the camp, etc. Stealth kills are ♥♥♥♥ing worthless since the cumans have a 50% or so chance to resist. Try to save scum through the camp inch by inch? Good luck with that since the ♥♥♥♥ing save potions make you ♥♥♥♥ing drunk, making you even less stealthy than you were already.

Finally as a last resort I tried to just dash through the camp, hitting all the sabotage objectives while outrunning the guards, then escaping on horseback. And it worked! Except wait, no it didn't since now I'm bugged and stuck in combat mode, even though I'm half way to Uhlitz and I left my pursuers like a hundred miles back.

I refuse to believe than anyone has actually completed this quest, and if you have, take pity on the rest of us and reveal the unholy wizardry you used to do so.

[Korppi]

you do realize its completely optional to sabotage them? you can just maybe poison one pot and run away and report back to initiate the assault.
When i first played i didnt manage to do anything... second time around i did as much as i could before bolting it. Not a single time did i fully sabotage the camp.

[Martyrofsand]

Um for me I've done it twice now, one being all stealthy except for the last one pot where I just ran in poisoned it and then called my horse and bolted out of there.

The second time I just stealth killed most of the cumans and those it didn't work with I just out ran them into the woods and as they started to reset dropped them with an arrow or two.

Took a while either way but it is very possible.

[Jack Niggleson]

Originally posted by Korppi:

you do realize its completely optional to sabotage them? you can just maybe poison one pot and run away and report back to initiate the assault.
When i first played i didnt manage to do anything... second time around i did as much as i could before bolting it. Not a single time did i fully sabotage the camp.

You need to poison all four pots and burn all four arrows for the sabotage objective to complete or actually do anything.

[Killahz]

There is an entrance to the camp through a somewhat wrecked cabin with low vis and a lot of darkness at night from the north. Wait till they sleep or minimum guards around objectives sneak in poison food/sabo arrows sneak/run out.

[Hippopotamus]

Does it make any difference if you manage it? I mean, the whole battle seems very much scripted anyway, is it possible to fail it?

I recall murdering the whole camp back when I played the part, but it was earlier patches.

[crazyorse]

Last couple of play-throughs I just killed everyone. Stealth kills worked fine but usually I would aggro a couple at a time run off with them following and then take them out. If I had too many, I'd run and rest up and then come back and pick off stragglers.
Takes a while but it's fun.
I think it is possible to fail the battle if you give wrong report to Radzig and then lose too many men in battle.

[The Dispatcher]

Night Stealth with NightHawk potion is fantastic. Take all your armour off and only wear stuff that's noise free with low visibility. You really have to check the stats on clothing and armour because sometimes dark stuff still has high visibility and noise. Stealth = a lot of patience.. like pre-millennial patience. Once you sabotage something everyone freaks out so you have to hide. There is a well (stairs down to water) that's great for this.

[Baron Khazadson]

If it's impossible then how did so many of us complete the quest? I hate seeing people say things are "literally impossible" when people have *literally* done them.

I reloaded my game several times but completed it via a combination of stealth and don't-give-a-♥♥♥♥-attitude AKA I just sabo'd some stuff and then ran like debt collectors were chasing me.

[Inmost Silence]

Oh well I hated this quest design. Even with the free saving mod it was a pain. While there is a cuman armor lying in a chest right at the hidden entrance in the north and while this armor allows you to inspect the camp quite well, it isn't possible to sabotage the camp wearing this armor. Best thing would be to inspect, than hide in the shadows, then putting on silent and dark clothes, then sabotage an object, hide again, equiping armor again to go to the next object, I guess.

I inspected the camp , fled and then came back later to infiltrate the camp stealthy (though I forgot the cuman armor this time).

And make sure to have like 3-5 Night Stealth and Night Hawk potions with you!

[Marty Chonks]

Originally posted by Brun0Sardine:

Seriously, impossible. The disguise is worthless, attempting any sort of sabotage gets you instantly seen, through walls, across the camp, etc. Stealth kills are ♥♥♥♥ing worthless since the cumans have a 50% or so chance to resist. Try to save scum through the camp inch by inch? Good luck with that since the ♥♥♥♥ing save potions make you ♥♥♥♥ing drunk, making you even less stealthy than you were already.

Finally as a last resort I tried to just dash through the camp, hitting all the sabotage objectives while outrunning the guards, then escaping on horseback. And it worked! Except wait, no it didn't since now I'm bugged and stuck in combat mode, even though I'm half way to Uhlitz and I left my pursuers like a hundred miles back.

I refuse to believe than anyone has actually completed this quest, and if you have, take pity on the rest of us and reveal the unholy wizardry you used to do so.

I walzed in Pryboslavitz in straight daylight, the first cuman near the bridge had a halberd, i killed him with bow, took the halberd called my horse and then ran down all of them with the halberd - used quickstabs and galloped back and forth doing turns between a point right across the main (bigger) bridge and to the entrance where normally the cutscene with runt begins (except it didn't to me, cuz i already alerted all the camp). Even if u missed everyone, do not slow down and do your turns also try to take out archers first. Enemies usually go down in one hit when u gallop and stab them with a polearm (i was even able to squeeze 2 stabs/kills during most "runs" - all the hours in mount and blade did pay off).

This way i just killed them all and then "sabotaged" their stuff when they were already dead (actually almost all, one cuman was sleeping, had to kill hi in 1v1 on foot).
Maybe the one cuman near the entrance doesn't always have a halberd, so you could first acquire a polearm for this method.

[Hippopotamus]

Found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkVF-nOE-Yc

[Jack Niggleson]

Okay I finally did it with the ♥♥♥♥ stealth running through like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ method. Eventually I was able to get away from the camp without getting bugged out and stuck in combat mode.

I guess that's what I get for trying to complete the mission they way the game tells you to complete it instead of just looking for goofy exploits.

[Phantom]

Stealth was fine, sacked 30-40 of them then just waltzed around their base doing stuff

made great monies too

[ɢeᴍ_]

Bro, I don't mean to pry but what's your stealth level? Mine was about lvl 13 when I started this and I was able to stealth kill everyone in the camp and worked my way up by drawing them out with archery arrows.

Protip: Cumans will routinely walk out through the side entrance (there's a side entrance with a disguise in a box and poison on a barrel). When they walk out, you assassinate them from behind, drag their body out of sight up on the ridge. After you do that, and there aren't much left in the camp, you can assassinate them where they sit and drag them to the water chamber hidden in the back.

After you do that, you can use your bow to archery kill the bandit guards one at a time, run away to the well chamber where you hid the bodies, and hide down there (Chameleon helps). There's an archery path you investigate that gives you full vision of their base entrance to the right of the Cuman exit that leads to the bandit entrance. The bandits always have a guard up because, just like the guys are programmed to walk outside of that side entrance with the hidden disguise in the box, the regular bandits routinely put up guards. Those guards are not infinite and are members of the base you can kill.

I 100% killed everyone, both Cuman and Bandit, stashed all loot in the disguise box, and fast traveled on my horse back and forth to a nearby town with a lodge until I stored all of it. Be mindful of your noise level when you assassinate while they're asleep. Easily made like 40k-50k Groshen.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by Phantom:

Stealth was fine, sacked 30-40 of them then just waltzed around their base doing stuff

Originally posted by ɢeᴍ_snek:

I 100% killed everyone, both Cuman and Bandit,

Killing them all is not what you are supposed to do. The major problem with this quest is that the obvious solution, to disguise as a Cuman and/or as a bandit, doesn't work well and may depend on prior quests, too. Such as whether you've met Murdock via Timmy. Disguising is non-intuitive, since some of the interactions are scripted. One cannot predict the outcome at all. To growl at the guard is just for some laughs. Shortly afterwards they all attack anyway. And if using stealth, one doesn't know either how high the skill must be. To make it worse, all Cumans and bandits apparently can see fine in darkness and don't need any nighthawk potion.