Am i supposed to be able to win the homecoming fight?

[Masterhummel]

So, i'm dancing around the guy and hit him with that awkward as heck combat system, but at somepoint he'll connect a single hit and then it's dack-dack-dack death in about 2 seconds. With him landing follow-up hits before his swing animation is even complete.

Is this the intended outcome for this fight and i just should give up? Or is it actually possible to win?

[One Stoned Bastard]

No.

[Eisbär]

The story requires you to lose.

[Masterhummel]

Alright, thanks for the clarification.

[Sapphic Meow]

As others have stated, you are supposed to lose.

The "awkward as heck" combat system becomes a lot more fluid as you level up for combos and train new abilities.

Your character (Henry) is a blacksmiths apprentice, not a master sword fighter. As shown when he tries to cut the stick with the sword, which his father and the lord where able to.

Its a rewarding feeling when youve trained and skilled up enough to take down your first multiple foes :)

[One Stoned Bastard]

Originally posted by Sapphic Meow:

As others have stated, you are supposed to lose.

The "awkward as heck" combat system becomes a lot more fluid as you level up for combos and train new abilities.

Your character (Henry) is a blacksmiths apprentice, not a master sword fighter. As shown when he tries to cut the stick with the sword, which his father and the lord where able to.

Its a rewarding feeling when youve trained and skilled up enough to take down your first multiple foes :)

You could almost say...

GASP?

That's the whole point of this video game?!

But yes you are railroaded into losing that fight. Henry wants to go back to Skalitz right away, giving you no chance to train him in combat.

[Lammkotze]

Forced to lose, great mission, wonderd why he wont die -.-

[gilchristionson]

Right so my 20 restarts and trying to learn combat was pointless

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by gilchristionson:

Right so my 20 restarts and trying to learn combat was pointless

How did you restart that bit 20 times or even one time? The loss of that fight is scripted and is followed by a long-ass cutscene followed by waking up at the Rattay Mill...... should that not have been a good indicator that you can't win the fight?

[Valden21]

Originally posted by gilchristionson:

Right so my 20 restarts and trying to learn combat was pointless

No, it wasn't pointless. Part of the reason that fight has you scripted to lose is to hammer home just how outmatched Henry truly is on combat, and that he's gonna have to learn and put in the effort in order to get the sword back. When that part of the game begins, Henry's so focused on getting back to Skalitz and burying his parents that he's totally forgotten that he doesn't know how to fight. Runt's an experienced fighter, while Henry's an utter n00b at combat. You'll learn the basic combat mechanics soon enough; have patience and put in the effort, and you WILL get better at it.

[Bandy]

Some people just don't get it and need to fight every battle and win every war.

[doubleo_maestro]

In all fairness to OP. Fromsoft have made it a bit of a mindset to try and beat the tutorial boss. Honestly, if you are just going to lose, just make it a cutscene, having you flail around doesn't make for better gameplay.

[Bandy]

Originally posted by doubleo_maestro:

In all fairness to OP. Fromsoft have made it a bit of a mindset to try and beat the tutorial boss. Honestly, if you are just going to lose, just make it a cutscene, having you flail around doesn't make for better gameplay.

You are correct, players enter KCD expecting and playing the same old play style that worked in all other games.

Let's be honest, there are A LOT of poor game design decisions in KCD (like the event in this thread), but for many players there are few other games that give that same overall feel.

[Masterhummel]

Originally posted by Bandy:

Some people just don't get it and need to fight every battle and win every war.

My Man, this thread is six years old. How do you even find it. You must've searched explicitly for someone being salty about this particular fight.

The fight wasn't a big issue, back then i was afraid of locking myself out of content because it felt winnable from what i remember.

[Bandy]

Originally posted by Masterhummel:

Originally posted by Bandy:

Some people just don't get it and need to fight every battle and win every war.

My Man, this thread is six years old. How do you even find it. You must've searched explicitly for someone being salty about this particular fight....

Uh, best review the thread again. There are 3 other posts from June 2024 before me, I was simply replying to those and didn't notice the rest. So it was current AFAIK...

And get over the need to necro-nazi moderate.

[The Faceless Man]

I second the whole "quit being a whiny baby over necro'ed threads" remark.