Henry's age VERIFIED!

[MacSuibhne]

Sometime ago one of the warhorse devs that occasionally posts here sent me an invite.

During the recent conversation regarding Henry's age I messaged him with the question.

The response came in this evening...

I quote: "He is in his teen age."


(See post #21 this thread)

'nuff said!

[philelliscop]

Just to appease any countries law's, I suppose the developers just bunged everything up above 18.

There are no children in the game. We all play in an environment full of adults. Its as the child catcher or the Pied Piper of Hamlin has been through the realm. Henry has yet to catch up with the Piper (future side quest).

But yea in real terms, Henry would be 14-15. His parents are putting more emphasis on being more responsible, he's just around the corner from being married. But hes still throwing dung and fighting like a teenager.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Clown World:

"Trust me bro"

Who would you rather trust? Someone from Deep Silver (at least one step removed from the creative process) promoting the game or someone from Warhorse--the actual studio who created the game-- and who was instrumental in designing the game and in making the decisions--someone who was, himself, involved in writing the story?

Who would you rather trust? Someone who lays it all out there, who's details can be verified over and over again just by doing a search on the Internet or someone who hides behind anonymity and never reveals even how much experience (if any) he has with the game?

That's the problem with authenticity and trust--they have to be at least marginally verifiable.

[𝐈𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐟𝐲𝐫𝐞]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

Sometime ago one of the warhorse devs that occasionally posts here sent me an invite.

During the recent conversation regarding Henry's age I messaged him with the question.

The response came in this evening...

I quote: "He is in his teen age."

'nuff said!

may i ask what is the problem whit Henry's age? I don't understand. Its because he is too young to do the stuff he does in the story? thanks

[IvantheFormidable]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

I quote: "He is in his teen age."

So probably 17-21.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by jeffvoid:

may i ask what is the problem whit Henry's age? I don't understand. Its because he is too young to do the stuff he does in the story? thanks

On the face of it, no problem.

But if he is older than 16 or so it doesn't square with what we know about that period in time--the historical facts, IOW.

What's more, people complain incessantly about how clueless Henry is--how he has no skills and has to learn everything; how he gets killed by peasants and surrounded by multiple opponents; etc., etc., ad nauseum.

But you can't have it both ways... even if you let your own modern sensibilities govern your perceptions.

If he is 27... no job, no skills, unmarried, still living with his parents... he would be considered the village idiot in medieval Bohemia. Even the way Henry has to build his strength gives the lie to him being a full grown adult in the harsh world of the work-or-die 15th century.

If he is a teenager, by medieval standards he's probably still a little lame but at least his ineptness is understandable. If he is a teenager then doing "childish things" is understandable. And then (and only then) the ubiquitous perception that he is a "lad" or even a "child" makes sense.

And more importantly, his story, his journey to 'manhood' makes sense.

[JiriRydl]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

Sometime ago one of the warhorse devs that occasionally posts here sent me an invite.

During the recent conversation regarding Henry's age I messaged him with the question.

The response came in this evening...

I quote: "He is in his teen age."

'nuff said!

The original idea was Henry is in teen age. Remember, that in medieval time you are taken almost adult in 14-16, helping with the work already from 10-12, some girls alraedy married in 15 etc. Of course the actor is older, the movements of the character scaned in the motion capture studio are "adult", so you have rather impression of a guy in twenties. But the idea was he is very young, uneducated, unexperienced teenager and before end of KCD he actually become a man, not aging of course, but in the similar way boys become men, rather inside. I hope I explained it little bit more :-] In the end, doesnt matter, the important is the emotional connection you get to Henry on his way, I believe.

[n0mad23]

Still accepting what the Victorians lied to you about as gospel truth.

But shouldn't be surprised as most people still think the propaganda written by the Romans was truth, too.

Believe what you want. And argue over a piece of fiction that's a video game.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Warhorse_JiriRydl:

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

Sometime ago one of the warhorse devs that occasionally posts here sent me an invite.

During the recent conversation regarding Henry's age I messaged him with the question.

The response came in this evening...

I quote: "He is in his teen age."

'nuff said!

The original idea was Henry is in teen age. Remember, that in medieval time you are taken almost adult in 14-16, helping with the work already from 10-12, some girls alraedy married in 15 etc. Of course the actor is older, the movements of the character scaned in the motion capture studio are "adult", so you have rather impression of a guy in twenties. But the idea was he is very young, uneducated, unexperienced teenager and before end of KCD he actually become a man, not aging of course, but in the similar way boys become men, rather inside. I hope I explained it little bit more :-] In the end, doesnt matter, the important is the emotional connection you get to Henry on his way, I believe.

Thank you, JiriRydl!! (This is the dev who answered me.) Thank you for so generously taking the time to correct the record.

Pay attention those who doubt. Pay attention those who hide in the bushes and doubt other peoples' word.

[Four Little Diamonds]

Originally posted by Warhorse_JiriRydl:

In the end, doesnt matter, the important is the emotional connection you get to Henry on his way, I believe.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Clown World:

Originally posted by Warhorse_JiriRydl:

, doesnt matter, the important is the emotional connection you get to Henry on his way, I believe.

See post #20. And read ... for once!

[Philippe_at_bay]

One of the problems with Henry's age stems from the actor playing Henry being much older than his character. Suspension of disbelief has been an accepted convention in movies and other mass media for well over fifty years. I still remember being puzzled as a child when my parents took me to watch a famous ballerina pushing seventy dancing Romeo and Juliet, in spite of the fictional Juliet being barely out of puberty. Agents and casting directors have been pushing actors into much younger roles from time immemorial, and it's a mistake to assume that this reflects reality. The target demographic wanting everybody to look like them even when it's inappropriate doesn't help.

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Clown World:

I never thought providing evidence of something could be construed as a hateful act, from official sources nonetheless but I guess to some it is.

Was post # 21 a "hateful act"?

[n0mad23]

Scanning a 40 year old actor for the role probably didn't help the "age controversy" much.

[MacSuibhne]

Where you gonna get a good 16 year old actor? Esp. one that doesn't trigger someone for visiting 'bath houses'?

[2GenL]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

I'd say this is about typical--people can either believe what those who were intimately involved in designing and making the game have to say or believe whatever the hellgrammite they feel like believing.

Not unlike the recent thread here where a Warhorse dev said that they were not paying any attention to the griping and whining posted on this forum and didn't think any of it was relevant anyway because ...well, essentially he said "haters will be haters" and will always be with us.

Which a certain same-old, old same cabal immediately dismissed, forgot and denied.

Oh well, in the end, it doesn't matter how old Henry is. What matters is what the developers intended because that (and that alone...not personal druthers, fantasies or whimsies) informs the game play.

Screenshot?
Evidence?
Source: 'trust me bro'

You just typed letters in a post.
Others commenting have posted videos of the dev proving their point of him being 20's