Question about stealth.

[Nightdoom98]

So I grabbed the dlc on sale and decided to start a new game but I have a question.

What’s the best statistics I can get with stealth while having good armor?

[DargonBlak]

There are 4-ish parameters that are related to Henry being noticed - 3 of them are based on what Henry is wearing, and the 4th is, in general, what Henry is doing (running, jumping, sneaking quickly, sneaking slowly, picking a lock, opening a chest, opening a door, etc.)

Visibility, Conspicuousness, and Noise are based on clothing - with Noise being the most important. With Good armor, the proper Maintenance perk, you can be wearing pretty good armor and have a Noise around 30 (which is pretty good, unless u are sneaking past a sleeping person - then you want something below 20, imo)

Actual Numbers (top level dude - averaged armor values):
Medium Armor (~19 avg for all - no chain shirt):__ Vis: 33 Cons: 35 Noise: 5
Heavier Armor ( body: 32, others: 23, chainmail):_ Vis: 30 Cons: 34 Noise: 27

Magdeburg Plate Pauldrons
Aachen Dark Brigadine
Saxon Composite Chausses
Helm, Mail Coif, Padded Coif, Padded Chausses, Hunters Gloves, Noble Boots
Long Noble Hauberk (noisier than) > "Chainmail" > No Mail (try it)

From what i can tell, Stealth reduces the Overall likelihood that you are noticed, thus, from this perspective, it reduces all 4-ish parameters when they are combined to determine whether or not you are noticed (i'm pretty sure your stealth doesn't lower your Noise parameter directly, but instead lowers the effect of your overall noisiness - sort of post-process).

A low Stealth score has a huge affect on being detected, so some lockpicking & pickpocketing is definitely worth it.

[kris.aalst]

First of all, a high Stealth level helps immensely. You can find trainers to increase Stealth or read books to increase Stealth, but mostly you'll increase it when successfully performing stealthy actions like lockpicking, sneak killing and pickpocketing.

The level 5 Stealth perk 'Stealth Kill' is the first one you'll need if you want to be able to steallth-kill opponents. At level 8 I recommend Slim Fit, which reduces the noise of your armour. If you combine this with the Padding perk from the Maintenance skill, your noise levels will be reduced by a lot. Mine is 3 when I'm wearing my sneaky outfit. When the Forester perk from the Hunting skill is active, so when I'm out in the woods, my visibility is zero.

Even with the above skills and perks, you still can't be wearing full plate armor if you want to be stealthy. The 'Body Chainmail' slot should be empty if you want to be sneaky. You want to make sure your visibility stat is as low as possible. That means wearing lighter and especially darker armour. The only downside to such an outfit is it lowers your charisma, causing people to treat you like crap and guards searching you for stolen goods all the time. I counter this by simpy having two pieces of equipment on me that I wear when I'm in a town and I don't want everyone to immediately assume I must be a criminal: Quartered Combat Jacket (or Brocade Outer Jacket if you can't get the QCJ yet) and a Green Doublet (15 charisma & zero weight, but any fancy Body Garment with high charisma will do).

When I just switch from my sneaky gear (i.e. Black Hood, the better version, and Dark Saxon Gambeson) to those two items, it doesn't matter that the rest of my equipment is pretty dark and sneaky because those two items are the most visible so they increase visibility and charisma and everyone treats me like royalty If you can still use a boost to charisma, keep some fancy jewelry on you to wear in towns. They have zero weight. I noticed a charisma value of 15 or 16 is the turning point when everybody reveres you.

[Nightdoom98]

Thanks for the info you two. I’ll be sure to keep it in mind.

[IT]

One guy you want to watch out for is Wolfram Pruda in Rattay. You can sneak kill a Cuman in board daylight while his pal is watching with 96 noise but he can still spot you.

[Vilab]

Originally posted by kris.aalst:

The level 5 Stealth perk 'Stealth Kill' is the first one you'll need if you want to be able to steallth-kill opponents.

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you don't need that perk to kill steathly, you can knock your victim, and then "finish" it once it is on the ground

the knocking part is ( i believe from my experience with the casttle wall climbing part of the game ) stealthier than the true stealth kill, and so is better when you have more than 1 guard arround. knock 1, knock 2, no-one arround -> finish them

beware that the animations may be more brutal