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Only when it comes to the setting - and realism - though.
They're all first person.
Easy answer.
If you like open world survival and a beautiful undersea game for a change of pace, I really enjoyed this game and had a lot of fun with it building undersea habitats, avoiding creatures that want to eat you, etc. Good game for us older folks. Not KCD like but a very fun and challenging game.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/264710/Subnautica/
RDR2 works fine with Kybd & mouse - it just takes a while to learn the weird controls (i've got over 1000 hours in RDR2 also)
Most of the aggressive RDR2 crowd come from Consoles, which was the only way to play the original RDR. They are also proponents of the GTA series - another Rockstar invention - again consoles and controllers (driving cars).
So, yeh - in the RDR2 forums - the moment you comment about the nutty controls - they tell you it was designed for a controller (which it was) and is better with a controller - um, but this is from folks that only use controllers, so a wee bit biased.
Anyway, the biggest diff between KCD and RDR2 is that RDR2 is best as third person. I'm trying to play it first person rn, (for Mac's sake), and it loses a lot of it's glamour in first person.
It's almost janky... :D
Other brilliant games are Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 (yes, indeed, screw the haters).
i completely understand - i had never played a R* game until RDR2 - everything prior to that was "all things Bethesda" (since 2005), and Fallout, Witcher, and Civ series (and SW KOTOR, and Mass Effect, and...)
RDR2 is absolutely stunning - like blow your mind stunning - it could certainly be more - and the story, voice acting, and gameplay can never be called "brilliant" - but i got lost in it for a long while. Just dont bother with Red Dead Online.... like ever. :)
I hear you. I suspect I'd have more trouble with a controller than kb&m even if the keybinds are weird.
Did you have a problem with first person in KCD?
KCD has plenty of "stunning" (moreso than RDR2 from what I've seen)--vistas and scenery, and and "glamour" too, doesn't it?
In your opinion, I mean...
I just don't care for the detached, floating-above-it-all feeling of third person. IMO, third person makes you into a sightseer rather than a participant. And it turns you into a puppeteer, rather than a player.
It makes it really hard to care about a character, for me at least, in third person.
Yeah, that's what I am afraid of. KCD is something quire special. Nothing I've seen comes close.
Even if it weren't so relatively bug and jank free, it would be a wonder for everything else. The water is the best I've ever seen. The scenery is mind-blowing. The story incredible.
I dunno. I'm sure I would be entertained.
oh no, my friend - KCD is nowhere near "stunning" from an RDR2 perspective - KCD is more like a watercolor compared to an RDR2 oil painting. Never mind the details like watching a bird through binoculars, while it preens itself.
KCD is honestly not much better graphically than Fallout 4 - very similar actually.
RDR2 is years ahead of both of them, even though RDR2 was released shortly after KCD.
But, it's understandable since Rockstar uses their own, in-house engines, and spent over $400 million USD in RDR2 development (compared to KCD small dev spending only ~$40 mill).
As far as first person in KCD - yes, first person in KCD is also "janky" - especially in melee combat, when you have no sense of where the opponents are, and the "rubberbanding" between you and whoever the computer decides is your target.
RDR2 third person is very smooth and fluid - and also *almost* necessary when it comes to motion - but that may still be from me trying to re-program my brain from 3rd to 1st person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nNnx6u_qM0
https://store.steampowered.com/app/552520/Far_Cry_5/
That is impressive. I had just about decided to refund it when you posted this.
I've always been on the fence about RDR2 because I've seen video that portrays the game as gratuitously brutal. I suspect / hope that's a choice that the player makes? I'm not a kill-the-women-and-children type--loved Henry because he was, or could be, a "noble mon" (James Lee Burke).
I can get a Logitech xbox controller for about $15.00... about what I saved when I bought the game. Although I am half convinced I can do alright with my trackball--it has 8 buttos and a scroll wheel.
Dern....
a great Singleplayer game if you like stories like 1984, BraveNewWorld, movies like ClockworkOrange or Brazil etc..
im digging it so far =P
ps: its in first person view and therefore has obviously similar kb/mouse usage like in KCD
(i found the rdr games to be boring btw, beauty cant save that, hehe ^^)
I was faced with the same question. I started RDR2 at one point but...... it wasn't KCD. I've just bought it again because I really didn't give it a fair shake first time thru. THe vibe was just so different from 1403 Bohemia I wasn't ready to make the jump. However fro everything I've heard from friends, it is absolutely fabulous once you give it a chance. After KCD, I too was loather to play third person - see below.
I played a ton of Skyrim after my 4th run of KCD. Yeah it isn't a 'real' rpg, and it looks aged right out of the box. However I modded the daylights out of it and it looked fantastic. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it. The graphics are stunning to say the least, once you've worked at modding the game from its original state. The background music is amazing and I really do see why people are so keen on it. I put a few hundred hours into it until something weird happened and one of the mods went slightly haywire. Some of the storylines are actually quite good, tbh. As a whole the game gets unfairly criticised. Yeah there's magic and that for me was initially a turn-off as I loved the realism of KCD. But it isn't KCD and isn't supposed to be. Take it on its own terms. It is truly huge with tons to explore - which is frankly what I enjoy the most.
Skyrim offers first AND third person. I always played first person but gradually I began to flip back and forth. I found that it was simply a deeply ingrained habit from KCD that made me 'prefer' first person. A lot of the time third person is actually preferable. Too bad more games don't let you switch back and forth - KCD included. It's actually brilliant. TBH when I started playing KCD again I had to make another mental adjustment, as Skyrim had me used to third person. It's all in the brain.
However, I'm hesitant about re-installing (Skyrim) it with all the mods as Todd Howard is making another cash crab in a few weeks, and from what I've heard it's going to mess with all existing mods. I have to investigate some way of 'protecting' the files from Steam tampering with them. To do it properly takes almost an entire day - as I had literally over 100 mods going at the same time. Was it worth it ? Oh yeah. There are people out there with a thousand mods running ! And good on them !
Alas, I'm up to my neck in two simultaneous hardcore runs : Henry V and Henry VI. Each different from one another in how I play and gear him. The ability of KCD to pull me back into its clutches continues to amaze.