Stuck on a bug in main quest..

[SunDriedSheet]

I am supposed to do some research what's going on with the silver mines in Skalitz and now in order to progress in the quest I have to speak to Nemoy or Nemoi whatever the transcription into English is. But that guy is just sleeping 24/7 and every time I try to talk to him he tells me to ♥♥♥ off and let him sleep cause he's tired. MAIN QUEST, broken

[vine]

are you not supposed to find something in the mines before talking to him? hmm?

[Ghart]

you can skip it by going directly to the mine

but yea, that quest is bugged

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Ghart:

you can skip it by going directly to the mine

but yea, that quest is bugged

Not a bug.

[vine]

and btw it's a side quest King's Silver, that can be started at Tobi Feyfar after All that glitters.
https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/The_King%27s_Silver

there are some tips at the bottom if you get buggy stuff in this quest. i know how i did it, i did not speak to nemoy before, just went inside right away. that's why i wrote what i wrote first. so i did not experience this bug. i'll try to go this way with Nemoy in my current playthrough.

[DargonBlak]

First off, this is a side quest called King's SIlver, not part of main quest line - so it doesn't stop you from progressing in main quest.

This whole quest is very buggy, and Nemoy sleeping all day is an example. He is supposed to eat at 9, 10, or 11 AM, but will then sleep all day when bugged.

Mostly, if you do things slightly out of order at the beginning of the quest (which is Very easy, like talking to the woman too early) - then you've basically caused a bug.

And the bug isn't helped by a poor quest marker. The quest marker is actually marking the "gallery" in the mine shaft.

There is a way to wake Nemoy, but i dont think it is necessary, and may reduce your Reputation. Apparently, if you shoot an arrow near him, he will wake up and run away, but if you follow him you will then be able to talk with him (a solution like this is an obvious indicator of a bugged quest) :)

So, the better solution at this point is to enter the mine, by finding the right mine entrance and finding the gallery that is below the winch that is near the settlement. Then looking around to find the right stuff.

Here's the two best walkthroughs i could find from a quick search - luck !

https://guides4gamers.com/kingdom-come-deliverance/quest/the-king-s-silver/
https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/The_King%27s_Silver

p.s. it is becuz of bugs like this that i use an easy save mod to save early anf often:
https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance/mods/380

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by vine:

and btw it's a side quest King's Silver, that can be started at Tobi Feyfar after All that glitters.
https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/The_King%27s_Silver

there are some tips at the bottom if you get buggy stuff in this quest. i know how i did it, i did not speak to nemoy before, just went inside right away. that's why i wrote what i wrote first. so i did not experience this bug. i'll try to go this way with Nemoy in my current playthrough.

lol - ur awesome !

[vine]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

Originally posted by vine:

and btw it's a side quest King's Silver, that can be started at Tobi Feyfar after All that glitters.
https://kingdom-come-deliverance.fandom.com/wiki/The_King%27s_Silver

there are some tips at the bottom if you get buggy stuff in this quest. i know how i did it, i did not speak to nemoy before, just went inside right away. that's why i wrote what i wrote first. so i did not experience this bug. i'll try to go this way with Nemoy in my current playthrough.

lol - ur awesome !

nah, you wrote the same stuff, pat on back to dude in your mirror :P
truth be told i did not believe that much in this bug, but i see this now, and will be aware of it :P

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by vine:

truth be told i did not believe that much in this bug, but i see this now, and will be aware of it :P

Well, i only ran this side quest once - and hit the same bug - so, i was aware.

But it's much like Neuhof - doing things out of sequence can cause issues - but the fact we're allowed to do things out of order so easily...

The devs did a very good job with their meager crowd-funded money - so, it is wut it is.

[Four Little Diamonds]

Originally posted by MacSuibhne:

Originally posted by Ghart:

you can skip it by going directly to the mine

but yea, that quest is bugged

Not a bug.

Yes bug

[vine]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

Originally posted by vine:

truth be told i did not believe that much in this bug, but i see this now, and will be aware of it :P

Well, i only ran this side quest once - and hit the same bug - so, i was aware.

But it's much like Neuhof - doing things out of sequence can cause issues - but the fact we're allowed to do things out of order so easily...

The devs did a very good job with their meager crowd-funded money - so, it is wut it is.

well... how much would your perception change if you knew how much kcd really cost? you.. can you seriously expect game of this magnitude to cost what, 1.5-2mil gbp? no, that's not realistic in the slightest. just look at the volume of voice overs..

i'm local, czech dude, and i follow kcd quite a lot and i know quite a lot about its development. had it not been for our local billionaire who funded.. what.. upwards of 20mil usd and assumed majority in whs in exchange, we would not be talking here and now.

so how about now :P

[MacSuibhne]

Originally posted by Clown World:

Yes bug

Most people who complain about this game don't even know what a bug is. For them, anything that they don't like--it's a bug. Raining from a cloudless sky? Bug. Kill a guard and get bad reputation... bug. Poor fps in cities... bug. Getting killed when your strength and combat skills are poor... got to be a bug. Mutt howling, bug. Game loads slowly from HDD... bug.

A bug is a flaw in the fundamental game code. Not an incompatibility with weak systems or flawed video drivers or the latest Windows update. Or an AV program. And definitely not an "I-could-have-done-it-better" dissatisfaction with some non-functional aspect of a game.

And adding insult to injury, most people who complain, have nothing on their profiles. What are they hiding? That's my question. Are they hiding the fact that they haven't played much beyond joining Radzig's garrison? Or that they haven't played at all? Or that the game or game version they're playing is illegal or not up to date?

I have completed this game just short of twice over 600+ hours (and the game can be completed in way less than half that time) and have never run across any significant or game breaking bugs. And I did it on a three year old rig. I have completed King's Silver twice and never seen the problem that the OP describes.

If it's a bug, why haven't I run across it?

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by vine:

so how about now :P

i like that you always provide valid points.

my perspective doesn't change much, since i was never thinking 1-2 mill - more like 10+mil, so i suppose that fits ;P

(as a side note, a software developer in the US earns over US$100k per year, some over US$200k - thus, a team of 20 for 2 years, plus 10 Graphics artists and "others" ? ~10mil)

for comparison, it is rumored that RDR2 cost over US$400 mill to develop (some estimates over US$500mill), so KCD is still fairly low budget (by comparison).

But it also shows how horribly lost the Rockstar developers truly are, becuz their game is absolutely not 20 times better than KCD - i actually consider them to be "in the same ballpark" at 20x the cost.

[vine]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

Originally posted by vine:

so how about now :P

i like that you always provide valid points.

my perspective doesn't change much, since i was never thinking 1-2 mill - more like 10+mil, so i suppose that fits ;P

(as a side note, a software developer in the US earns over US$100k per year, some over US$200k - thus, a team of 20 for 2 years, plus 10 Graphics artists and "others" ? ~10mil)

for comparison, it is rumored that RDR2 cost over US$400 mill to develop (some estimates over US$500mill), so KCD is still fairly low budget (by comparison).

But it also shows how horribly lost the Rockstar developers truly are, becuz their game is absolutely not 20 times better than KCD - i actually consider them to be "in the same ballpark" at 20x the cost.

Rockstar also had allegedly ~1600 devs working on RDR2, WHS is at 130 give or take :P so that also :D
thanks for your view again :)

[AfLIcTeD]

Originally posted by vine:

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

i like that you always provide valid points.

my perspective doesn't change much, since i was never thinking 1-2 mill - more like 10+mil, so i suppose that fits ;P

(as a side note, a software developer in the US earns over US$100k per year, some over US$200k - thus, a team of 20 for 2 years, plus 10 Graphics artists and "others" ? ~10mil)

for comparison, it is rumored that RDR2 cost over US$400 mill to develop (some estimates over US$500mill), so KCD is still fairly low budget (by comparison).

But it also shows how horribly lost the Rockstar developers truly are, becuz their game is absolutely not 20 times better than KCD - i actually consider them to be "in the same ballpark" at 20x the cost.

Rockstar also had allegedly ~1600 devs working on RDR2, WHS is at 130 give or take :P so that also :D
thanks for your view again :)

130 what? Developers? Doubt it. 130 total staff, probably. How many are actual developers?
This is what people don't get. Just because a studio has X amount of people, doesn't mean all of them are working on the game.

What, do they get the marketers or cleaning staff to do some night time coding. HR wants some over time.

[MacSuibhne]

The real question... and this is specifically for the whiners... is why major studios with 20x the funds and 10x the personnel of Warhorse, release games that are as bugged ... and usually moreso... than KCD at release?

And as a corollary, why do many, if not most, of those same games remain far more bugged 10+ years out than KDC three years out?

I was playing Skyrim (half-heartedly) in June of 2020 and it still had major bugs that crashed the game to desktop.