Can I still do the quest Dead men tell no tales when Black Peter is dead?

[Armed Cumin]

This is my first play through, I was in a tournament and then it got cancelled because Black Peter was murdered. I don't know who is he so I went and look him up and now I wonder: will the Dead men tell no tales quest still available? Whom will I meet now in the final round when the champ is already dead?

[every1hasnames]

Yes it would still be available. But a dialogue option wouldnt be available due to you never fighting black peter when he ambushes after the tournement because he died before hand. . But you could still complete the quest. Youd get a crappier ending for the quest.

If black peter isnt in the tournament due to being dead before you completed the tournament once. There will just be a random npc as the 3rd opponent instead of black peter.

[Armed Cumin]

Originally posted by every1hasnames:

Yes it would still be available. But a dialogue option wouldnt be available due to you never fighting black peter when he ambushes after the tournement because he died before hand. . But you could still complete the quest. Youd get a crappier ending for the quest.

If black peter isnt in the tournament due to being dead before you completed the tournament once. There will just be a random npc as the 3rd opponent instead of black peter.

Thank you, but the thing about a random killer killed off a quest related character confuse me alot. (not of your doing )

Or is it an event meant to happen but I just fool around for too long (?) I dont think so, because as the Dead men tell no tales quest, you're supposed to be the one that kill him. So what is this random event that defaults a quest anyway?

[2GenL]

Maybe on the way to rattay he got attacked and ambushed on the road and didnt make it out - they are fairly random events and black peter dying before making it the tournament for the quest is also random

[Armed Cumin]

Originally posted by 2GenL:

Maybe on the way to rattay he got attacked and ambushed on the road and didnt make it out - they are fairly random events and black peter dying before making it the tournament for the quest is also random

he died literally next to the ring, while watching my 2nd bout. Now that I think about it, who (even the player) can kill him in the broad daylight with dozen of guards and armed men standing around without being noticed?

[Armed Cumin]

well, after more than a week now the tournament just never got opened again. Just because Black Peter is dead, Ratty never hold another tournament. What a nice bug.

Does anyone knows any mods or way to fix this cuz this randomness really put me off.

[maldorf]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

well, after more than a week now the tournament just never got opened again. Just because Black Peter is dead, Ratty never hold another tournament. What a nice bug.

Does anyone knows any mods or way to fix this cuz this randomness really put me off.

Same thing happened to me now. Ive tried fighting the tournament 5x now and he dies each time. Someone assasinated him right next to the ring. So frustrating.

[Armed Cumin]

Originally posted by maldorf:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

well, after more than a week now the tournament just never got opened again. Just because Black Peter is dead, Ratty never hold another tournament. What a nice bug.

Does anyone knows any mods or way to fix this cuz this randomness really put me off.

Same thing happened to me now. Ive tried fighting the tournament 5x now and he dies each time. Someone assasinated him right next to the ring. So frustrating.

The way i "fixed" it was to force tournament by talking to the host and chose to lodge until the next one. After that, the tournament works normally, ofc without Black Peter.

[maldorf]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

Originally posted by maldorf:

Same thing happened to me now. Ive tried fighting the tournament 5x now and he dies each time. Someone assasinated him right next to the ring. So frustrating.

The way i "fixed" it was to force tournament by talking to the host and chose to lodge until the next one. After that, the tournament works normally, ofc without Black Peter.

Wow, smart! I hadnt thought of that. I think I will go back to the save and do that then. So talk to the host and enter. Then instead of fighting, go off and sleep at the inn.

Thanks for the tip. I would like to win the tournament.

Does anyone know why Black Peter gets killed like this? I must have done something to trigger it. I know that I did the quest for the father of the kid that Black Peter killed, the blacksmith. I finished his questline, or at least reached its end. I seem to recall it saying I failed something at the end.

At the time i had no idea it was connected to the tournament. Perhaps me doing that triggered his death while watching the tournament?

[Armed Cumin]

Originally posted by maldorf:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

The way i "fixed" it was to force tournament by talking to the host and chose to lodge until the next one. After that, the tournament works normally, ofc without Black Peter.

Wow, smart! I hadnt thought of that. I think I will go back to the save and do that then. So talk to the host and enter. Then instead of fighting, go off and sleep at the inn.

Thanks for the tip. I would like to win the tournament.

Does anyone know why Black Peter gets killed like this? I must have done something to trigger it. I know that I did the quest for the father of the kid that Black Peter killed, the blacksmith. I finished his questline, or at least reached its end. I seem to recall it saying I failed something at the end.

At the time i had no idea it was connected to the tournament. Perhaps me doing that triggered his death while watching the tournament?

I think we misinterpreted each other. In my case, after BP's death, the tournament was never reopened for weeks. So the way I fixed it was to force tournament by talking to the host and chose the option to pay 180g and wait for the next one (which is simply entering a loading screen and let the game generates a tournament).

In yours, I guess you don't want BP to die, so I suggest you try to skip that tournament, move on with your game and enter the next one. My guess is as you don't trigger the tournament (which was meant the death event for BP), he won't die that day. And maybe by the next tournament, the event's trigger (hopefully) won't happen and you will be able to fight him.

As far as I understand, event triggers (bugs) in most games usually tie to the progress of the game, so maybe if you enter a loading screen (ie. sleeping, cutscenes, got throw into jail, etc.) it might renew it.

[maldorf]

Well, what I did was this. I talked to the guy and asked him the price. I said it was too much. Then he walked over and started the tourney. I watched the whole thing and Black Peter just collapsed at the game like he had been poisoned ! I was hoping id see someone kill him, but it wasnt that detailed.

I will hope that the tournament is offered again later. If its not, oh well. I give.

[Armed Cumin]

Originally posted by maldorf:

Well, what I did was this. I talked to the guy and asked him the price. I said it was too much. Then he walked over and started the tourney. I watched the whole thing and Black Peter just collapsed at the game like he had been poisoned ! I was hoping id see someone kill him, but it wasnt that detailed.

I will hope that the tournament is offered again later. If its not, oh well. I give.

so it's a scripted event if you didn't finish the DMTNT quest in time. If the tournament isn't open in weeks just do as I did. I just hate that the fact they failed to mention some quests are timed, it is a game after all.

[maldorf]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

Originally posted by maldorf:

Well, what I did was this. I talked to the guy and asked him the price. I said it was too much. Then he walked over and started the tourney. I watched the whole thing and Black Peter just collapsed at the game like he had been poisoned ! I was hoping id see someone kill him, but it wasnt that detailed.

I will hope that the tournament is offered again later. If its not, oh well. I give.

so it's a scripted event if you didn't finish the DMTNT quest in time. If the tournament isn't open in weeks just do as I did. I just hate that the fact they failed to mention some quests are timed, it is a game after all.

Yeah, its scripted. Seems to happen so many minutes into the duels. Its kinda funny, the guards comment on where is the grave digger, and how its going to start smelling.

I wanted to check his body for items but its considered stealing and the guards jump all over you.

[Armed Cumin]

Originally posted by maldorf:

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

so it's a scripted event if you didn't finish the DMTNT quest in time. If the tournament isn't open in weeks just do as I did. I just hate that the fact they failed to mention some quests are timed, it is a game after all.

Yeah, its scripted. Seems to happen so many minutes into the duels. Its kinda funny, the guards comment on where is the grave digger, and how its going to start smelling.

I wanted to check his body for items but its considered stealing and the guards jump all over you.

When he's dead, I waited for like 5 mins, then loot him, his fellow tournament participators attacked me, but the guards didn't, I ran for the bridge leads to the blacksmith, they gave up, I come back to the corpse and took everything. The gears weren't even half decent consider the loot I got at the time.

Everything related to BP is so buggy and confusing when it first happened.

[MacSuibhne]

Sometimes I wonder if we're all playing the same game. I've been through that part of the game twice... once on normal, once on hardcore...and I've never had a problem with Black Peter (or anyone else) dropping dead arena-side. Never seen anything like it.

[maldorf]

Originally posted by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Pacifier:

Originally posted by maldorf:

Yeah, its scripted. Seems to happen so many minutes into the duels. Its kinda funny, the guards comment on where is the grave digger, and how its going to start smelling.

I wanted to check his body for items but its considered stealing and the guards jump all over you.

When he's dead, I waited for like 5 mins, then loot him, his fellow tournament participators attacked me, but the guards didn't, I ran for the bridge leads to the blacksmith, they gave up, I come back to the corpse and took everything. The gears weren't even half decent consider the loot I got at the time.

Everything related to BP is so buggy and confusing when it first happened.

Yeah, I actually dragged his body out over the bridge with the guys attacking me, dropped it and ran. Came back later but it was gone. When they attack me I saw that I was in trouble in town and that closed gate symbol popped up on my screen. I just gave up on it.