Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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Ommamar Aug 20, 2021 @ 9:56am
Is the Royal edition worth it?
So I have the base game on GOG but I see it is on sale here with all the DLC's included so do you think it is worth it to by this edition? How much do they DLC's actually add to the game? As a side note I would like whoever started this trend of super duper ultimate got to have this new edition for a game you already bought trend a good kick in the arse! You can get some good deals but it makes me not want to buy games on release any more. Because they usually have issues and there will be a version released later at a reduced price that has all the fixes for the release issues plus the additional content added since initial release.
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kris.aalst Aug 20, 2021 @ 10:26am 
My opinion that I formed after reading reviews and asking advice here on the forums before buying:

1. Amorous Adventures of HC: fun DLC, expands on one of the more interesting NPCs in the game with whom the protagonist has a strong bond (for better or worse = your choice). Has plenty of humour.

2. Band of Bastards: an average DLC. Nice to have and adds a few extra quests to the game. Nothing to be sad about missing out on either, though.

3. A Woman's Lot: this was definitely a 'no' for me. For several hours, you don't play as your usual PC (Henry) but as a woman you'll encounter in the main game. Playing as Theresa, you'll have to sneak, hide and run (women can't fight in these dark ages, you know...) which is something you like or not. I don't like pure stealth games.

Also, you can get a dog companion after finishing Theresa's adventure. If you get wild by the idea of a dog companion, go for the DLC! But even though the dog can do one or two useful things for you (nothing you can't do yourself), it will often run in front of you when you don't want it to. So for me, this DLC was a no way.

4. Treasures of the Past: useless. You get 5 treasure maps on top of the 20 you can collect in the base game. If you rush towards these treasures, you get gear that makes you overpowered for a while, sucking all the fun out of learning the game and building your character. If you just collect them as you come across them, it's nothing to write home about, really. Oh yeah, and you don't need the maps from the DLC to get the treasure. You can just as easily look up where these 5 treasure spots are and collect them anyway.

5. From the Ashes: this one has me on the fence. All in all, it's pretty useless. You can build a town but it doesn't mean much. You invest a lot of money building the town and the town slowly pays your investment back because of daily income from the town. I own this DLC but haven't made it to the town yet so can only repeat what I read about the DLC.

Again, that's my opinion. For instance, I know some people like 'A Woman's Lot' but in the end it's subjective, of course. A couple of my favourite movies have a terrible score on Rotten Tomatoes. That doesn't mean I like the movies any less, it just proves again that there's no accounting for taste, which is a good thing! To each his own.
MacSuibhne Aug 20, 2021 @ 10:58am 
FWIW, you have to buy A Woman's Lot to get the dog but you don't even have to start the DLC to get him as an extremely useful companion.

I didn't engage him in my first playthrough until over half way through. Once I did, and in my second playthrough i realized I didn't want to be without him.

I didn't play AWL in my first playthrough but in my second I am just in the early stages... it's mildly interesting, so far. Really interesting to see ALL of Skalitz before it was burnt.

I liked BOB, but I like the combat in this game.

Liked FTA a little less but it's convenient to have a safe haven to operate out of esp. if you're farming Skalitz.
Old Ben Aug 20, 2021 @ 1:33pm 
I bought the game with all DLCs on sale for about $13, very good value. You can start any DLC in game play or not, your choice. Woman's lot was enjoyable if you like the story and provide back story of Skalitz which was enjoyable. You can make so much money in this game from selling items taken off bandits, etc., that From the Ashes was also fun to rebuild the village, and a good place to spend all the loot, plus you get another bed and chest to use. Haven't started Band of Bastards yet or Amorous Adventures. Get them all when on sale, make your own mind if you like or dislike, everyone is different. I play for story content more then fighting content.

I'm about 130 hours in game so far with 30 achievements and many more to go.

Is the Royal Edition worth it.....you bet it is, a great value.
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kris.aalst Aug 20, 2021 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by Old Ben:
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True but keep one thing in mind: some DLC prevent you from finishing the main quest of the game before you've completed the DLC. For that reason, it's worth considering whether or not you want to play some of the DLC. Of course, you can buy it and not install it... but then you're better off just buying the base game + the one or two DLC you actually want to play. For me, this turned out to be cheaper than buying the Royal Edition and I only have the DLC that I find at least somewhat interesting.
Old Ben Aug 20, 2021 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by kris.aalst:

True but keep one thing in mind: some DLC prevent you from finishing the main quest of the game before you've completed the DLC. For that reason, it's worth considering whether or not you want to play some of the DLC. Of course, you can buy it and not install it... but then you're better off just buying the base game + the one or two DLC you actually want to play. For me, this turned out to be cheaper than buying the Royal Edition and I only have the DLC that I find at least somewhat interesting.

Then you simply don't start the DLC if you don't want to play it. And if you start it and don't like it, just reload a previous save and continue on. Point is for $13 for this quality of game is a great value. Also there is no 'single' main quest, its broken up into numerous quests that you can continue or pause at any time to do something else.
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MacSuibhne Aug 20, 2021 @ 2:32pm 
Originally posted by Old Ben:
Originally posted by kris.aalst:

True but keep one thing in mind: some DLC prevent you from finishing the main quest of the game before you've completed the DLC. For that reason, it's worth considering whether or not you want to play some of the DLC. Of course, you can buy it and not install it... but then you're better off just buying the base game + the one or two DLC you actually want to play. For me, this turned out to be cheaper than buying the Royal Edition and I only have the DLC that I find at least somewhat interesting.

Then you simply don't start the DLC if you don't want to play it. And if you start it and don't like it, just reload a previous save and continue on. Point is for $13 for this quality of game is a great value. Also there is no 'single' main quest, its broken up into numerous quests that you can continue or pause at any time to do something else.

In my experience...

There is no dlc that will "prevent you from finishing the main quest of the game before you completed the DLC," except perhaps A Woman's Lot. And you can probably play that after the the siege of Talmberg.

There is a single main quest--it's at the top of the quests menu in the Quest Log. That said, AFAIK, the supporting quests and side quests are not always interruptible--you can't always just "continue or pause at any time."

The main quest itself, can be delayed as you pursue and complete the side quests, although at some point in the game momentum carries you inexorably forward to the conclusion. .




AfLIcTeD Aug 20, 2021 @ 3:22pm 
Originally posted by kris.aalst:
3. A Woman's Lot: this was definitely a 'no' for me. For several hours, you don't play as your usual PC (Henry) but as a woman you'll encounter in the main game. Playing as Theresa, you'll have to sneak, hide and run (women can't fight in these dark ages, you know...) which is something you like or not. I don't like pure stealth games.
You do know there is more to this DLC than just Theresa's story. There is a whole other questline you can do later while playing as Henry.

By far the best DLC. Theresa's story is basically a one time playthrough, but the dog and other questline are worth it.

Also she definitely can fight.
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kris.aalst Aug 22, 2021 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by AfLIcTeD:
Originally posted by kris.aalst:
3. A Woman's Lot: this was definitely a 'no' for me.
By far the best DLC.

As I said in my initial reply, I only gave my opinion. To the OP: if you ask a question on a game's forum where only the greatest fans of the game take their time to reply to new threads, you're bound to get a biased reply. That's not to say that my opinion is any more valid than the other people who posted here.

I suggest you look at the review score for each DLC. A Woman's Lot scores less than 50% so that gives you a more objective view on what players think of the DLC as opposed to what fans of the game think. You may also notice that a lot of the 'positive' reviews for the DLC boil down to "I didn't really like it but still glad I bought it as a support to the devs" and such.
AfLIcTeD Aug 22, 2021 @ 7:14am 
I know I was just saying that there is more to the dlc than just playing as Theresa. More for the op really.
kris.aalst Aug 22, 2021 @ 7:29am 
I know I was just saying that while you think A Woman's Lot is "by far the best DLC" you're part of a very small minority of players who think so. You're definitely entitled to your opinion but if someone asks about it, it would be better to say something like "Most people don't like it or like it less than the other DLC but I personally think it's the best DLC!" That informs the OP a lot more about the general feeling about the DLC in addition to voicing your own opinion which diverges strongly from most of the players in this particular case.

If someone asks whether or not Trump was a good president, you could say "He was by far the best president ever!" but it would be better to say something like "Although most people agree Trump is a blabbering narcissistic clown, I think he was the best president ever!" :steamhappy:
MacSuibhne Aug 22, 2021 @ 7:37am 
The bottom line is that you don't need any of the dlc's. If they were content that was dropped before release there may have been a reason for that

But they are interesting... each in their own way. And it keeps you playing and involved in KCD a little longer. Fleshing out the story in some cases... such as AWL.

That said, all the nervous angst about buying the Royal Edition is kind of misplaced, IMO. The price you can get the KCD and the RE, is so low... you've lost more money from holes in your pockets or from buying cheap thumb drives than you're ever gonna be out buying the RE.

The benefits outweigh the cost, IOW.

Atech66 Aug 22, 2021 @ 9:16am 
I got it for a few bucks more its a no brainer
kris.aalst Aug 22, 2021 @ 10:04am 
I don't buy any content (games or DLC) that I'm never going to play. So I check reviews and such before buying anything. Nothing to do with a no brainer except that it's a no brainer for me to not buy something I'll never use. So the same goes for buying games (or DLC for games) I'll never play.

Also, it's not about getting a great deal financially. I bought the base game + the two DLC I actually wanted to play for even less money than the Royal Edition when the RE was on sale for an all-low price ever according to SteamDB.
Ommamar Aug 22, 2021 @ 12:08pm 
Originally posted by kris.aalst:
I don't buy any content (games or DLC) that I'm never going to play. So I check reviews and such before buying anything. Nothing to do with a no brainer except that it's a no brainer for me to not buy something I'll never use. So the same goes for buying games (or DLC for games) I'll never play.

Also, it's not about getting a great deal financially. I bought the base game + the two DLC I actually wanted to play for even less money than the Royal Edition when the RE was on sale for an all-low price ever according to SteamDB.

I guess this is the thing I am wondering about, I played the base game when it came out and had a good experience but it wasn't a I got to play this game in as many ways as possible feeling I have gotten from other games. Kind of more along the lines of that was a good story with some interesting twists and turns plus a nonstandard just swing your sword around combat system. But the world just didn't grab me for some reason so the only reason to buy a royal edition would be because it is on sale at the moment and I might possibly play it again some time in the far future.

There is also this trend I am really not liking of rehashing old games adding one or two new features then selling it as a new edition that is plaguing the industry as a whole. I think Todd Howard made a good point when he said if you don't want us re-releasing editions of the same game then don't buy it. I know he was being snotty but the only way the industry is going to change is if we make a statement with are money.
kris.aalst Aug 22, 2021 @ 1:27pm 
@Ommamar I couldn't agree more. I didn't know Todd Howard said that. By saying that, he confirmed that people have a reason to hate crap like Fallout 76. Admitting you have a problem is the first step, according to a lot of 'get better' programs, so good on Todd :steammocking:
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