How to win clinches?

[FM Helldiver Radio]

I´m practicing clinches with bernard and can´t figure out how to win them.
I´ve got the skill to get 40% bonus.

The journal says "start the clinch with F and then do an Attack". This seems to be wrong as the clinch just stats when you walk close and i have won some clinches without pressing LMB/RMB.
There are a lot of youtubes but they say a lot of different rumors how to do it.

After alf an hour of training I made 3 clinches a win for me but i have no idea how i did it.
I´m just pressing buttons and hope for the best but have nothing to aim for.

[FM Helldiver Radio]

Stupid question:
Is it possible to hurt Bernard in a fight with bare hands? So that the purple bar decreases?
Or is this "just practice" and it can not happen.

same question for wooden weapons.
How do i tell if i hit him? Is there any effect?

[DerRitter]

To win clinches you have to get in a clinch, and then spam the button you pressed to get into clinch. What I mean is that you can clinch while being close and pressing F, or with a regular strike if you are close enough, and you have to rapidly press either F, or mouse click.

[DerRitter]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Stupid question:
Is it possible to hurt Bernard in a fight with bare hands? So that the purple bar decreases?
Or is this "just practice" and it can not happen.

same question for wooden weapons.
How do i tell if i hit him? Is there any effect?

you beat him when he starts crying 'enough', though that rarely happens.

[Philippe_at_bay]

If you've picked a lot of flowers, you usually win your clinches.

[DargonBlak]

Clinches are also a Contest of Skills - so, your abilities against your opponents abilities, with a random component. Agility and Strength matter, as do Warfare and Weapon Skill.

I cannot consistently beat Bernard at clinches until my Strength is over 8, Agility and Warfare are over 5, and Weapon Skill is over 4.

Then, it's just a matter of learning the Keys and the timing.

And likewise - i'm old, but age doesn't hold us back too much :)

I really can't emphasize enough that slowing down makes a HUGE difference.

Spamming does not help - it is timing that matters. Spamming can actually flood your system with inputs, and make it slower to respond (i think of it as flooding your buffer) - it is MUCH better to slow down you response, and double-tap at the right time (double-tap deals with my poor timing better than a single-tap and a prayer)

For clinches, there are multiple responses to break the clinch (assuming you win) - one is a punch in the face (RMB-a jab), and one is a kick (LMB-main attack) - while the punch in the face is very rewarding at times, i prefer the kick since it send the opponent away.

Pick one Clinch response until you learn the timing, then try others - in this case a Slow Spam (or triple-tap) does work (but keep the adrenaline under control) - again, it's all about timing - so once it starts working, try to figure out the right time (which you can't do if you are spamming).

To start a clinch, you have to move really close and attack at the right moment/distance - this also takes practice.

Once you start winning more often, Kick him into a corner, and he wont go very far, but he will still be staggered and you can attack. Or simply clinch him again.

Clinching earns Skill with weapon - there is an exploit in Training called "Clinch Grinding"

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Stupid question:
Is it possible to hurt Bernard in a fight with bare hands? So that the purple bar decreases?
Or is this "just practice" and it can not happen.

same question for wooden weapons.
How do i tell if i hit him? Is there any effect?

Practice Maces are Bludgeons that do Real Damage - if you Beat him with this Practice Weapon, the Training session will end without your request.

Bludgeons are the only Practice Weapon that do enough damage to cause Bernard to quit this way.

If you choose real weapons, you can both be damaged as well.

And be sure to repair you armor with repair kits after training - it will boost your maintenance skill.

[Hermes]

Be careful though, beating Bernard into a pulp might earn you criminal status

[FM Helldiver Radio]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Stupid question:
Is it possible to hurt Bernard in a fight with bare hands? So that the purple bar decreases?
Or is this "just practice" and it can not happen.

same question for wooden weapons.
How do i tell if i hit him? Is there any effect?

Thanks for the answers but
my question was if the purple bar should show any decreasing if i hit him right.
So is there some sort of indicater before Bernad gives up or isit just beating and then he suddenly stops?

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Stupid question:
Is it possible to hurt Bernard in a fight with bare hands? So that the purple bar decreases?
Or is this "just practice" and it can not happen.

Yes. If you ask to fight unarmed you can beat him up until the training end.

[FM Helldiver Radio]

Ok, I´ll I try to formulate it differently.
What I want to know is, if the there is a way to see if i hit bernard or if he blocks. If i´m makeing progress to win the fight.

[DerRitter]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Ok, I´ll I try to formulate it differently.
What I want to know is, if the there is a way to see if i hit bernard or if he blocks. If i´m makeing progress to win the fight.

Not sure what you mean- you should be getting visual and audio clues- you see him block, or him getting hit with a thumping sound and maybe him saying something.

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Originally posted by Gooru:

Stupid question:
Is it possible to hurt Bernard in a fight with bare hands? So that the purple bar decreases?
Or is this "just practice" and it can not happen.

same question for wooden weapons.
How do i tell if i hit him? Is there any effect?

Thanks for the answers but
my question was if the purple bar should show any decreasing if i hit him right.
So is there some sort of indicater before Bernad gives up or isit just beating and then he suddenly stops?

You will see Bernard get bloodied in the face as you hurt him, and his clothing looks a bit messy.

And there is an indicator of opponent health in your main health bar.

Upper left of your own Health and Stamina bar is a small section that indicates you horse stamina when mounted, and your opponent's health when in melee. you can watch Bernard's health this way.

Google "KCD Health Bar" and look at the image that pops up to explain your health bar

[DargonBlak]

Originally posted by Gooru:

Ok, I´ll I try to formulate it differently.
What I want to know is, if the there is a way to see if i hit bernard or if he blocks. If i´m makeing progress to win the fight.

Mostly with Bernard - not dying means you are succeeding - sorry for using the words "if you can beat Bernard ur ready" - i was really just referring to using mace/bludgeon practice weapons , or real weapons otherwise - then you are each doing real damage and the winner becomes very obvious.

Once your skill gets above a 6, with warfare and defense comparable - you will be much more likely to land blows in regular combat.

And then you just need to learn Move Constantly, use surroundings (like trees) to protect you blind side, or even use you opponent to shield you from arrows, etc.

[FM Helldiver Radio]

Originally posted by DargonBlak:

Originally posted by Gooru:

Ok, I´ll I try to formulate it differently.
What I want to know is, if the there is a way to see if i hit bernard or if he blocks. If i´m makeing progress to win the fight.

Mostly with Bernard - not dying means you are succeeding - sorry for using the words "if you can beat Bernard ur ready" - i was really just referring to using mace/bludgeon practice weapons , or real weapons otherwise - then you are each doing real damage and the winner becomes very obvious.

Once your skill gets above a 6, with warfare and defense comparable - you will be much more likely to land blows in regular combat.

And then you just need to learn Move Constantly, use surroundings (like trees) to protect you blind side, or even use you opponent to shield you from arrows, etc.

Hmm... damn.
If got Warfare 6 and Defense 10 but I see not the slitest sing of success. No move on the Health Bar. No bad clothing. No blood in the face. I really think I´m not hitting him at all. That´s why I was asking.
If we use real weapons, I dance around him till I (not Henry) gets to tired after several minutes and then I start missing blocks and get beaten.

[CalicoJack]

Originally posted by Philippe_at_bay:

If you've picked a lot of flowers, you usually win your clinches.

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@OP
clinching,
i think you can use either LMB/RMB or F to wrestle in a clinch and if you win either will have a different animation like knee to face, belly stomp and some kind of armdisjointing.
its important to repeatedly press the button/s fast until the clinch is over.