Examining a corpses should NOT count toward "Corpses Looted" crime stat

[Shinyklaxx]

In one playline, I'm trying to play with a clean crime record. Just seeing what's on a corpse counts as a crime under "Corpses Looted" even if I've not taken anything. Activities on the main quest line require getting things from corpses, so in a sense "game breaking" for this playstyle.

This is frustratingly silly especially when just trying to get my arrows back from killing rabbits with Hans. [Also note in the Hans hunt quest is the fact that, in order to win against Hans you have to take the rabbit meat, but every morsel you take counts as stealing.] If you want a clean record you just have to leave your arrows and let Hans win.

"The Hunt Begins" quest is where the clean record playstyle breaks. Because you are REQUIRED to retrieve the hoof-tool-thing from the dead bandit, and just looking at a dead body's inventory counts as a crime.

There's a way around this, but it litterally breaks the game. You can knock out the bandit before he dies, and loot the tool. If you then go back to the ranch, all the dead bodies that were on the ground are now standing in the crucifix pose! You go talk to Jakub and find out where Ginger went. Normally, the game's supposed to save there when you get a new quest, but if the bandit didn't die when you got the tool, you don't get the next quest. Game Broken.

ONE SOLUTION: Examining corpses' inventories should not count as a crime.

[Salem Graves]

An honorable man does not touch corpses! That's the executioners job.
(Why do you want to look if you don't plan to loot?)

[Shinyklaxx]

Because the quest I was on required me to find the tool on a dead body. I was on official business wtth the town captain and he's standing around with his men, and no else is able to examine the corpse. The game stops there for you if you want to "play by the rules".

I get the idea that in general there's the taboo of the time of touching dead things. But it shouldnt be an absolute game stopper. If the game allowed it, I would ask someone else to do it or find another way. I mean, I did find another way, but the game litterally broke after that.

Not hard to understand my view right?

[Mr. Self Destruct]

Point is a sound one. I guess it was the balance the devs chose for realilsm/gameplay. Christians did not touch corpses, doing so was considered desecration and a pretty big sin. Only a few professions were allowed to handle corpses, and the people who did those professions were shunned, and weren't even allowed to live in the towns, they had to live outside the limits, which is why the executioners live out on their own in the game.

What they could have done to alleviate this problem was not make it a crime to loot corpses that were needed to complete quests that weren't part of the criminal questlines. Who knows, it wouldn't be a stretch to think it might even be a bug.

[thiaggo]

Noeat a écrit :

u can mod that.. this game support modding.. then u can enjoy your game without be punished for looting corpses and stole things.. if u want to

theres a mod that you can commit a crime and doest count on crime tab statistics? dont think so

[BiggusMickus]

Crivvens.. A complaint that's actually legit. I agree. I've not done a squeaky clean playthrough yet (that's my next one) so this hadn't occurred to me, but I agree 100%.

I'd wager that the rabbit meat being tagged stolen is a bug... Logic dictates that if the lord of the fief tells you to shoot bunnies, then they're not supposed to be stolen. If you become the master huntsman, that's also supposed to make meat not be stolen, but that doesn't work, it still gets the stolen tag.

[M]

I agree 100% and also experienced that bugs.

[BiggusMickus]

Gh05t_Shi3ld a écrit :

How do we know if the npc is alive or sleeping?

Eeeeeh, I remember the good old days. Way back in the glory days of KC:D it used to tell you on screen... Guard (unconscious) Guard (dead). Then, the screeching "everything is OP" .. "muh balance", and lo, the nerfing was upon us.
Now you simply have to stand there for a couple of hours & see if they wake up. Simple. That's obviously the best way to do it, after all it's impossible to tell if a person's alive & out cold or all the way dead just by looking at them and/or touching them. /s