Good thief - buy ring?

[illustrious.jfunk]

Aam I supposed to be able to buy the ring? When the executioner offers, my character immediately declines and I can no longer speak to the executioner at all.

I just can't get the hang of lock picking, the tiumbler turns too fast for me to manage even with my mouse turned way down. I also can't really practice because I immediately break the lock picks on the practice chest and then the miller just stands there and won't talk to me any more. It's hard to get good when I have no mechanism by which to practice.

[Albino Noodle]

it's 15 bucks so you probably don't have that at that stage of the game.

[Tyrir]

Might be able to kill him for a key, if all else fails.

[illustrious.jfunk]

I have 19.5 gold, so it's not a matter of available cash. And I don't think killing him will do any good since the ring will still be in the chest. I probably couldn't kill him anyway since the only weapon I have is the sword I found with the guard's uniform and it requires 7 Agility to use properly.

Ugh. Really enjoying the content of this game so far, but it's making it pretty painful technincally thus far. Can't practice lock picking because the Miller/practice chest is bugged. Can't move on in an alternate path because the executioner convnersation is bugged.

I guess I'll just reload to before the trek up to the executioner and move on for now (already did practice fighting and am supposed to report to bailf). Does this quest have a time limit? Does it get better or are lots of quests broken like this?

[Rendan]

If you want to buy it from him you'll have to pass a speech check. Otherwise you'll want to pick the door on his house and open a chest in there for it.

[illustrious.jfunk]

Originally posted by xXRendanXx:

If you want to buy it from him you'll have to pass a speech check. Otherwise you'll want to pick the door on his house and open a chest in there for it.

Thanks, but if you read the post you'll know I've passed the speech check because he offered to sell it to me, but Henry instantly says "no thanks" without me actually getting the chance.

I also can't learn to lock pick because the Miller chest isn't working as a practice chest (lock pick breaks on every failure) and then he will not speak to me again after I use them all up.

[Rendan]

Originally posted by Josh:

Originally posted by xXRendanXx:

If you want to buy it from him you'll have to pass a speech check. Otherwise you'll want to pick the door on his house and open a chest in there for it.

Thanks, but if you read the post you'll know I've passed the speech check because he offered to sell it to me, but Henry instantly says "no thanks" without me actually getting the chance.

I also can't learn to lock pick because the Miller chest isn't working as a practice chest (lock pick breaks on every failure) and then he will not speak to me again after I use them all up.

Ah well in the tutorial you could have learned to lockpick as well if you decided to do the sneaky approach when getting your fathers tools back.

But it's strange that there wasn't an option to accept the offer to buy the ring.

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Josh:

Aam I supposed to be able to buy the ring? When the executioner offers, my character immediately declines and I can no longer speak to the executioner at all.

I just can't get the hang of lock picking, the tiumbler turns too fast for me to manage even with my mouse turned way down. I also can't really practice because I immediately break the lock picks on the practice chest and then the miller just stands there and won't talk to me any more. It's hard to get good when I have no mechanism by which to practice.

You can always start a new play through, grab the 4 free lockpicks and then practice in the starting area. I'm 49 with very poor eyesight, yet I find the lock picking very easy after an initial few practice sessions.

[The Stranger]

There is a mod on Nexus that shows you where you need to stay to pick the lock.
Or just use easy lockpicking, that removes the minigame.

Or, you know. Do it like I did. Send him out of his house, hide behind the door in the kitchen, wait until night, knock him out in his bed. Steal his key. :)

[Scardigne]

Personally robbed it, got caught, had to pay fee's at the town when caught by catchpoles. :/

pay the man 15 after using speech skill.

[Clev]

I'm having the exact same problem. Henry immediately declines the ring when I offer to buy it from the executioner and then I'm unable to speak to him again. I guess that route of the quest is broken.

Hopefully the devs will improve the lockpicking minigame soon, because its far too awkward and frustrating.

[Bordric]

I bought it, was a viable option at the time. 15 walked away.

[illustrious.jfunk]

Yeah, it seems to work fine for some people. Not sure what the catalyst for Henry auto-declining is. Not sure, but I think the "practice lockpicking" may be broken for everybody and it's just the people that didn't have trouble with it and passed right away that didn't notice it.

I lingered too long in his house and he fought me. I beat him up then let him go, but no option to extract the ring/key from him at that point and now everybody hates me in town.

I guess for now I'm just going to reload to before this all started and skip the whole thief quest line. Pretty annoying that literally the first quest you are given post-prologue is so easily broken in multiple places, does not bode well for the rest.

[John Helldiver]

Kill the millers up the road. Suddenly quest failed

[Bordric]

I found nothing broken on the quest line. If you tell him you are the dead guys friend and play on his emotions he will sale you the ring. 15 gold.

[illustrious.jfunk]

Originally posted by Bordric:

I found nothing broken on the quest line. If you tell him you are the dead guys friend and play on his emotions he will sale you the ring. 15 gold.

Why bother responding if you don't read a single post in the thread? A bunch of people have reported this in the bug thread too. For some people, after the executioner aagrees to sell you the ring, Henry immediately responds "not interested", the conversation ends, and you can no longer initiate any dialog with him.

Regardless of your lock picking prowess, the training chest is bugged. It's not supposed to break lock picks, but it does. And if you fail and break all of your lock picks, the Miller will no longer speak to you, he just stands there.