Knockout not working?

[Jack_]

So yeah,

im sneaking up behind someone (crouched), its dark and have no armour so im super quiet. When I press F it goes into the animation but then they turn around like "dafuq dude" and kick my ass?


What am I doing wrong?

[CreutzFeldJak0b]

some heavy armored dudes are immune to backstab and knockout.
and i think there is a skillcheck because i had the same problem with the wolflins camp.
sometimes i would be able to pull it off and sometimes not.

[DontOpenDeadInside]

Originally posted by CreutzFeldJak0b:

some heavy armored dudes are immune to backstab and knockout.
and i think there is a skillcheck because i had the same problem with the wolflins camp.
sometimes i would be able to pull it off and sometimes not.

never had this problem o.O Didn't know some can be immune to it. Thanks for telling :)

[Battleseed]

They are not immune. You have too low of strength and/or unarmed skill vs theirs and they block your attempt. Think it skill checks against STR, unarmed and stealth since all of those have raised on doing knockouts.

[CreutzFeldJak0b]

that clears things up.
thx

[Jack_]

Originally posted by Battleseed:

They are not immune. You have too low of strength and/or unarmed skill vs theirs and they block your attempt. Think it skill checks against STR, unarmed and stealth since all of those have raised on doing knockouts.

Awsome! thanks dude!

[k4Qu]

For me its a difference if im still or still in motion. If Im moving it will fail if im still it works. Or at least its been like that with the first knockout i did on Thalmberg Castlewith the guard has the key for the armory

[CreutzFeldJak0b]

do u maybe have chamaeleon?

[k4Qu]

Nope that was veery early in the game I didnt have anything then. But first it worked perfectly and I knocked the guy out and took the key and robbed the armory but got caught later on so I releaded and suddenly I couldnt knock him out anymore. After several tries I found out I needed to be stationary for it to work.

[Tyrir]

It can fail. There is probably a skill check involved.

[Ivarukฅ(^•ᴥ•^)ฅﾉ彡]

I think it's cool. Gotta remember Henry starts as a bumbling fool and not a SEAL. Some bandits will simply be stronger than you at first

[CreutzFeldJak0b]

yeah i think that npc's in generell grow with you (or atleast some of them).
i have empathy and i noticed that the guards recently have much higher stats compared to before.

[k4Qu]

Hm,... interesting. At least their combat skills dont seem to scale... sadly..

[CreutzFeldJak0b]

but you noticed bandits in full plate popping up right?
not sure how realistic it is, to have bandits all over the place, that are better equipped than some knights but ok

[k4Qu]

Yeah right ive noticed that, they still die very easily and dont fight as good as they did when you were very low skilled in warefare and weapons. And there are still lots of bandits that barely wear a shirt.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by CreutzFeldJak0b:

some heavy armored dudes are immune to backstab and knockout.
and i think there is a skillcheck because i had the same problem with the wolflins camp.
sometimes i would be able to pull it off and sometimes not.

Level stealth and (maybe) strenth - and you will be able to kill anyone. Resistance of some enemies depends on level.