Bandit camp battle is impossible

[Telos]

Seriously I have been doing this for 2hours.
everytime I die or we all die, its impossible. the AI does not attack the archers they just stand their and look at them whilst dying. its annoying

[ShepardTheDestroyer™]

My boy. I was high as ♥♥♥♥ and I still beat this part, granted it took about 5 tries

[Chaos AD]

Originally posted by recurf:

I think I have been rushing the main quest and Im massivley under leveled and geard

Yes you are! Find some plate gear and get combat perks and learn special moves.

[fweakyfishie]

I killed the archers. Went back to mop up the foot folk and then the game says game over because too many of my men died, but they're all still alive. Impossible to get to the Cumans.

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

Originally posted by fweakyfishie:

I killed the archers. Went back to mop up the foot folk and then the game says game over because too many of my men died, but they're all still alive. Impossible to get to the Cumans.

Thats a bug, report it to the devs, they already know about it though. Contact tech support so they help you out with that.

[dichebach]

How to play Hardcore KCD the "smart way:" When you wake up at Rataje, do NOT go talk to Lord Radzig.

Go and do side quests, and level up everything. Try to get EVERYTHING that is associated with combat (STR, VIT, AGI, STLTH, to at least 15; WARF, DEF, MAINT, MACE, BOW, SWORD, AXE to at least 10 and preferably higher) to a good strong level. It is doable, though it does involve a good amount of play time. I've spent about 120 hours on one shelved initial Normal playline and then another 120 on my Hardcore. I didn't approach Radzig till about 90 hours maybe 100.

I failed the mission first time just because I didn't do the dance steps properly, but I reloaded, leveled a bit more, and went back and cleared out the whole camp on my on, burned all their arrows, stole all their fruits and vegetables, desecrated all the corpses, slept in their haystack for 5 hours, and left the next morning with 2400 pounds of loot in my pocket went back to Rataje and sold it. Then I told Lord Radzig "Not too many of them" and I to the mission in full plate with a mace and bow and a dose of all the best potions and I barely broke a sweat.

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

That sounds a bit boring though, just being able to destroy everyone easely. And defeat the purpose of being realistic. To each their own though.

[big ron]

dam i thought it was super easy
i just played as an archer plinking dudes whle my guys fought them. i kind of felt sorry for them getting such a beating. runt got a beating too.. right in the face

[Newgunden]

Originally posted by dichebach:

How to play Hardcore KCD the "smart way:" When you wake up at Rataje, do NOT go talk to Lord Radzig.

Go and do side quests, and level up everything. Try to get EVERYTHING that is associated with combat (STR, VIT, AGI, STLTH, to at least 15; WARF, DEF, MAINT, MACE, BOW, SWORD, AXE to at least 10 and preferably higher) to a good strong level. It is doable, though it does involve a good amount of play time. I've spent about 120 hours on one shelved initial Normal playline and then another 120 on my Hardcore. I didn't approach Radzig till about 90 hours maybe 100.

I failed the mission first time just because I didn't do the dance steps properly, but I reloaded, leveled a bit more, and went back and cleared out the whole camp on my on, burned all their arrows, stole all their fruits and vegetables, desecrated all the corpses, slept in their haystack for 5 hours, and left the next morning with 2400 pounds of loot in my pocket went back to Rataje and sold it. Then I told Lord Radzig "Not too many of them" and I to the mission in full plate with a mace and bow and a dose of all the best potions and I barely broke a sweat.

no, the best timing is after find ginger and Sir Radzig ask you to Uzhitz find Limpe.
Don't go Limpe house you can still learn read.
Than go do side quest.

[Varrict]

I found this to be super easy, before the battle I disguised myself as a cuman and set fire to the arrows and poisoned the food. Then told Sir Radzig there's too many to count to get the maximum amount of soldiers and then attacked the camp from the bridge. Doing all of this reduced the amount of soldiers and archers making them extremely easy to pick off, I think I only lost 2 soldiers during that battle.

It did help that when we got to the church whilst the ai was clashing against each other I snuck round the formation and stabbed people in the back giving my allies the chance to cut them down.

[Lieste]

When you are tasked to "take care of the archers", you need to do so.

You can do this is several ways -

shoot them from near the gate.
rush up the steps inside the Cuman camp and engage with melee weapons.
set fire to the haypile near the wall.

One of these is easier than the others, but you do still need to deal with them as they come down. It does interfere with the effectiveness of the archers in the church courtyard as well.

From watching other failures it seems that getting too far from your (small) group of allies tends to cause a lose-state "too many dead" even if all are still alive, leaving the area altogether gives a different failure message.

[dichebach]

I enjoy "open world" game play. Skyrim: probably played it ~1500 hours total . . . probably 850 of that was literally IGNORING any quests in my log and just wandering around, hunting . . . So from that standpoint, going "off the rails" when you wake up in Rataje and "leveling" (we could call it "grinding" but we could also play it "open world exploring/role playing") isn't boring so much as fun.

As far as steamrollering everything: it is true that the leveling system in the game is badly out of whack. Henry becomes superhuman far too quickly, and the idea that anyone short of King Arthur can wade into a mob of 10 bad guys and just mow them all down and come out only slightly injured is kinda absurd. Given the game itself does not offer a "realistic" or "balanced" or "well graduated" leveling and difficulty system, I don't see much point in intentionally gimping myself or otherwise failing to gain any advantage I can and go through every combat challenge I find with the least amount of punishment. I mean, "dying" isn't fun is it? Having to reload a save cause you died doesn't contribute to a sense of immersion or "historical realism," does it?

Anyway, there are lots of ways to do it! Luckily the game design is not all "on rails, place your next dance step exactly HERE or <MISSION FAILED>." Indeed, even some of the scripted action sequences which seem to be very tightly choreographed from the first playthrough are actually (apparently) fairly flexible in how they can be solved. Still, Invisible Wall to the south of Skalitz funneling Henry along the road to Talmberg is EGREGIOUSLY PUTRESCENT Game design and it deserves nothing but scorn IMHO.

[Hawk]

You necros this is from a year ago

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

Originally posted by Lieste:

When you are tasked to "take care of the archers", you need to do so.

You can do this is several ways -

shoot them from near the gate.
rush up the steps inside the Cuman camp and engage with melee weapons.
set fire to the haypile near the wall.

One of these is easier than the others, but you do still need to deal with them as they come down. It does interfere with the effectiveness of the archers in the church courtyard as well.

From watching other failures it seems that getting too far from your (small) group of allies tends to cause a lose-state "too many dead" even if all are still alive, leaving the area altogether gives a different failure message.

You can also just let your archers kill them. I couldnt kill the archers without getting killed and I had to restart a lot, when one restart, my archers came in, and killed all their archers in no time. Thats my go-to solution now :P

(although if I redo a game, Il just get better skills before going to the runt battle)

[Brexit Champion]

Originally posted by Benelor:

its your job to kill those archers. Which is really easy with a bow or simply a shield and sword as they cant fight for ♥♥♥♥. And with plate armor which by then you should already have they cant really hurt you either.
Most of you play the game simply wrong. You dont learn the fighting system, the archery or farm money to be prepared.

This is one of the best RPG in the past 20 years and i love every second of it. :)

yea no ♥♥♥♥, with the fact that a lot of the quests are timed you dont know when you can chill and go do other stuff and when you will get punished for it by failing the quest. Its just constant pressure its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded

[QuantumFerret]

Originally posted by Soviet Toaster:

Originally posted by Benelor:

its your job to kill those archers. Which is really easy with a bow or simply a shield and sword as they cant fight for ♥♥♥♥. And with plate armor which by then you should already have they cant really hurt you either.
Most of you play the game simply wrong. You dont learn the fighting system, the archery or farm money to be prepared.

This is one of the best RPG in the past 20 years and i love every second of it. :)

yea no ♥♥♥♥, with the fact that a lot of the quests are timed you dont know when you can chill and go do other stuff and when you will get punished for it by failing the quest. Its just constant pressure its ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ retarded

So is necroing a post from over a year ago.