Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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Bijat 2018 年 2 月 16 日 上午 10:26
Sword vs mace
I don´t understand why you woud go for swords honestly.

Most of the armor have more stab/slash resistence then blunt, sure if target only have gamberson/cloth he may have a slight higher blunt resistence (like 12blunt/8 slash/stab) but with plate (what the tought guys got) the diffrence is huge smth like 24 slash / stab & 10 blunt.

So if enemy 1 (cloth/gamberson) attacks me i hit with my sword agenst his maby combined damage resistence 15 while with my mace i hit agenst his 20 blunt resistence, sure sword wins but the win aint that great.

Then if i attack a heavy armored person i hit with my sword agenst his 40-50 resistence while my blunt hit his 20-30 resistence.

If the system works like full damage done = wep dmg - armor, then mace will win in both fights while sword win agenst light opponent but hardly the heavy. Easy way to win in battle is to do huge amount of burst damage to reduce oponents stamina & abit of health in bursts.

Yes it seems some of the higher tier sword may have up to 20 more damage then maces (do note i have only seen a few of all weps), if (full dmg = wep dmg - armor) is right then swords may be better then all maces in all situations if there aint heavy armor oponenets that got 30-40 higher slash/stab armor).

Another thing, i have never noticed my maces reduce in durability when hiting enemies and i guess swords dull agenst plate pritty fast, that coud be a even greater reason to go blunt...

Yea halberd seems to be top top...but most of the time you won´t have it if you don´t drag it along with you evrywhere (and get npcs angry & not abel to shoot bows).
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Lactose the Intolerant 2018 年 2 月 16 日 上午 10:29 
Swords are much faster and have many more useful combos than maces, they also take less stamina to swing. Maces are better against unskilled opponents or armoured opponents you can easily over power.

But against the strongest opponents in the games, you will fare better with the sword, if you know what you're doing at least. If you're bad at the combat I'd suggest sticking to polearms/maces.
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Sunrock 2018 年 2 月 16 日 上午 10:30 
Mace + Shield is better then Sword + Shield. However I still think the longsword is best. It has longer reach and you learn allot of martial tec that llows you to brake your oponents guard and so on.
Glug 2018 年 2 月 16 日 上午 10:32 
To my knowledge, swords have more combos than maces, and they're more lethal against lightly armored opponents. Reach is another factor, since maces tend to be shorter than the swords. Maces are the opposite. They have less techniques and it takes way longer to unlock all of them, on top of having lackluster damage against non-armored opponents when compared to swords. Axes bridge the gap between mace and sword and function as a jack-of-all trades weapon.
Foe 2018 年 2 月 16 日 上午 10:32 
Swords are much faster and have many more useful combos than maces, they also take less stamina to swing. Maces are better against unskilled opponents or armoured opponents you can easily over power.

But against strong opponents you will fare better with the sword, if you know what you're doing at least. If you're bad at the combat I'd suggest sticking to polearms/maces.
You just said why the sword is so much better/easier and then u say go with the other weapons if you are bad... makes no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense.
Brma 2018 年 2 月 16 日 上午 10:34 
引用自 c3lix
Swords are much faster and have many more useful combos than maces, they also take less stamina to swing. Maces are better against unskilled opponents or armoured opponents you can easily over power.

But against strong opponents you will fare better with the sword, if you know what you're doing at least. If you're bad at the combat I'd suggest sticking to polearms/maces.
You just said why the sword is so much better/easier and then u say go with the other weapons if you are bad... makes no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense.
I think they mean swords are indeed better overall but if you aren't good at combos and skills then using brute force is easier.
Lactose the Intolerant 2018 年 2 月 16 日 下午 2:36 
引用自 c3lix
Swords are much faster and have many more useful combos than maces, they also take less stamina to swing. Maces are better against unskilled opponents or armoured opponents you can easily over power.

But against strong opponents you will fare better with the sword, if you know what you're doing at least. If you're bad at the combat I'd suggest sticking to polearms/maces.
You just said why the sword is so much better/easier and then u say go with the other weapons if you are bad... makes no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense.

The sword isn't easier, it's better. From what people are saying here, most can't make proper use of the speed or even do a simple combo.

If you can't do that then the mace and polearm are much more forgiving toward someone's lack of skill.
JonWoo 2018 年 2 月 16 日 下午 2:39 
I use the thumper. It's a long sword that trades piercing for blunt.
DrDaft 2018 年 2 月 22 日 上午 3:09 
Soul Slicer all the way
Great pierce and slash damage and its not that heavy also has a nice Def on it if your like me and don't use a shield

And to all those struggling to do combos do what i did train with Captain bernard over and over till its second nature and you learn the basic combo, and the ones you can unlock through the swords skill tree

But its still no walk in the part simply because the enemy also can parry/dodge riposte you etc but at least you have an advantage at least
Mansen 2018 年 2 月 22 日 上午 3:11 
One word - stabbing.
YamaKami 2018 年 2 月 22 日 上午 3:12 
IMO Long sword FTW, maces are just too slow. Though if you bog yourself down with heavy armour and have no speed, then everything's slow lol
TheTrueKitty 2018 年 2 月 24 日 下午 8:10 
Greetings! In my optinion blunt damage weapons like maces (my favorit) are way to powerfull in lager/higher tier levels and known gameplay. There are huge balancing problems in this game, which I'm still not figured out how to play with it. Agains huge groups of enemys u can stabb a few before fight or just shoot some down with your bow (actually 1-2 hits are killing everyone - with the right arrowtype). In duells maces are insane. I can't even fight with a wood clump (training weapon) agains those road duellists, because they DIE with a single riposte or swing. I started already using my fists insted to not "kill" those rewarding challanges. Swords in my opinion are fast and can be strong - but without being able to slash multiple enemys in front of you - or holding them away from you - it's so weak to fight right. You have to clinch, riposte and hit so many hits, to get to the same resultate with only one mace swing. I'm even not wearing good armor pieces, just to stay in this light armor perk...

Another question: Are u able to do riposte in those chained perfect blocking situations? I only noticed Bernhard is able to, but never land one myself.
Newgunden 2018 年 3 月 4 日 上午 5:43 
Because Sword fighting looks so CCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLL!
[BRE] Leon 2020 年 1 月 13 日 上午 11:59 
Well warhammers were actually overpowering in real life as well. They were killing tools while swords were a weapon of prestige. I guess where they shine is inflicting bleeding where they would be ideal at fighting multiple oponents that are not very well armored.
Mansen 2020 年 1 月 13 日 下午 12:11 
引用自 Leon
Well warhammers were actually overpowering in real life as well. They were killing tools while swords were a weapon of prestige. I guess where they shine is inflicting bleeding where they would be ideal at fighting multiple oponents that are not very well armored.

Thanks for that pointless TWO YEAR necropost there bud.
Belegost 2022 年 1 月 18 日 下午 6:18 
引用自 Mansen
引用自 Leon
Well warhammers were actually overpowering in real life as well. They were killing tools while swords were a weapon of prestige. I guess where they shine is inflicting bleeding where they would be ideal at fighting multiple oponents that are not very well armored.

Thanks for that pointless TWO YEAR necropost there bud.

You're welcome!
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