Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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Karl Feb 15, 2018 @ 12:41am
Earliest bludgeon weapon location? (Pacifist playthrough)
Anyone know if there's a bludgeon weapon anywhere in Talmberg or the starting town? I want to play the game as nonlethally as possible and bludgeon weapons apparently knock people out instead of killing them.
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The Male/Man Mar 21, 2018 @ 10:54pm 
Sometimes I use the club and it kills people.
Tomas Mac Mordain Mar 21, 2018 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by The Marching Proctologist:
Sometimes I use the club and it kills people.
+1 for paci'fist' you use your 'fist' to 'pacify'. It's in the name dude! Seriously, you can only use fists and takedowns on people if you want the Merciful achievement.
The Male/Man Mar 21, 2018 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by kermit:
Originally posted by The Marching Proctologist:
Sometimes I use the club and it kills people.
+1 for paci'fist' you use your 'fist' to 'pacify'. It's in the name dude! Seriously, you can only use fists and takedowns on people if you want the Merciful achievement.

Aww. Oh, you know if the patch fixed much of the bugs?
Last edited by The Male/Man; Mar 21, 2018 @ 10:58pm
qgToast®™ Mar 21, 2018 @ 10:58pm 
Sneak, sneak, choke!
Tomas Mac Mordain Mar 21, 2018 @ 11:05pm 
Originally posted by The Marching Proctologist:
Originally posted by kermit:
+1 for paci'fist' you use your 'fist' to 'pacify'. It's in the name dude! Seriously, you can only use fists and takedowns on people if you want the Merciful achievement.

Aww. Oh, you know if the patch fixed much of the bugs?

The game is and will always remain a broken mess in my opinion. The implementation approach is flawed so much, that it cannot be redeemed. I finished the game, but hell was it a sh*tty experience. No immersion whatsoever when you have to constantly work around the game's quirks and truly mind-boggling oversights. As far as game-demolishing bugs the current patch made it worse, I think. Halberds lie all over the place and tax the physics subsystem, master-strokes are broken for non-longswords, random encounters are broken, many quests are still broken and do not continue. It is not fun. At least ginger in a pickle kinda works and the cages for the nightingale quest have a better chance of not falling through the floor...
qgToast®™ Mar 21, 2018 @ 11:08pm 
Originally posted by kermit:
Originally posted by The Marching Proctologist:

Aww. Oh, you know if the patch fixed much of the bugs?

The game is and will always remain a broken mess in my opinion. The implementation approach is flawed so much, that it cannot be redeemed. I finished the game, but hell was it a sh*tty experience. No immersion whatsoever when you have to constantly work around the game's quirks and truly mind-boggling oversights. As far as game-demolishing bugs the current patch made it worse, I think. Halberds lie all over the place and tax the physics subsystem, master-strokes are broken for non-longswords, random encounters are broken, many quests are still broken and do not continue. It is not fun. At least ginger in a pickle kinda works and the cages for the nightingale quest have a better chance of not falling through the floor...

Your comment has nothing to do with the OP.
Teralitha Mar 21, 2018 @ 11:19pm 
When you follow the main quest, you get a bludgeoning stick very early on.
qgToast®™ Mar 21, 2018 @ 11:25pm 
You can't be a Pacifist or do a Pacifist Playthrough if you wish to clobber folk over the head. Pacifism doesn't work thaat way.
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CellNav Mar 21, 2018 @ 11:44pm 
Originally posted by qgToast ®™:
You can't be a Pacifist or do a Pacifist Playthrough if you wish to clobber folk over the head. Pacifism doesn't work thaat way.

How true! ... haha.

The bludgeon stick might be broken. The only way to beat someone with that stick is to micromanage your beating, wait a moment after each hit to see if they pass out (not possible when the other guy is trying to kill you!).

If the bludgeon stick is broken, perhaps it's because it causes bleeding damage when it shouldn't? IDK .... internal bleeding would be the only reason.
Bramborough Mar 22, 2018 @ 12:44am 
After prologue finishes and Henry wakes up in Rattay, the first order of business is to go see Radzig..the nobles will put you to work as a town guard. The Rattay Armory will then issue you a crap helmet and a wooden bludgeon (optional) before you go meet Nightingale. So you could go get the bludgeon and then delay the main quest by avoiding Nightingale for however long you want...no time pressure at this point.

There may also be one somewhere in the Talmberg Armory toward end of prologue...I don't remember a bludgeon or low-end mace there...but I wasn't really looking for one either, just may not have registered it.

As others have said, however, just because it's a bludgeon doesn't mean it won't kill people. Especially once your Mace skills have levelled up a few notches. The Unarmed approach is actually pretty viable against lone opponents if wearing plate. Lol, I like just beating up the random encounter road knights to ensure I don't kill them, even though they're sword-armed.
qgToast®™ Mar 22, 2018 @ 12:49am 
Originally posted by Bramborough:
After prologue finishes and Henry wakes up in Rattay, the first order of business is to go see Radzig..the nobles will put you to work as a town guard. The Rattay Armory will then issue you a crap helmet and a wooden bludgeon (optional) before you go meet Nightingale. So you could go get the bludgeon and then delay the main quest by avoiding Nightingale for however long you want...no time pressure at this point.

There may also be one somewhere in the Talmberg Armory toward end of prologue...I don't remember a bludgeon or low-end mace there...but I wasn't really looking for one either, just may not have registered it.

As others have said, however, just because it's a bludgeon doesn't mean it won't kill people. Especially once your Mace skills have levelled up a few notches. The Unarmed approach is actually pretty viable against lone opponents if wearing plate. Lol, I like just beating up the random encounter road knights to ensure I don't kill them, even though they're sword-armed.

You are like the annoying friend that tells you all about the movie you have yet to see, but are about to. *Spoiler Alert* wouldn't go amiss.
Bramborough Mar 22, 2018 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by qgToast ®™:
Originally posted by Bramborough:
After prologue finishes and Henry wakes up in Rattay, the first order of business is to go see Radzig..the nobles will put you to work as a town guard. The Rattay Armory will then issue you a crap helmet and a wooden bludgeon (optional) before you go meet Nightingale. So you could go get the bludgeon and then delay the main quest by avoiding Nightingale for however long you want...no time pressure at this point.

There may also be one somewhere in the Talmberg Armory toward end of prologue...I don't remember a bludgeon or low-end mace there...but I wasn't really looking for one either, just may not have registered it.

As others have said, however, just because it's a bludgeon doesn't mean it won't kill people. Especially once your Mace skills have levelled up a few notches. The Unarmed approach is actually pretty viable against lone opponents if wearing plate. Lol, I like just beating up the random encounter road knights to ensure I don't kill them, even though they're sword-armed.

You are like the annoying friend that tells you all about the movie you have yet to see, but are about to. *Spoiler Alert* wouldn't go amiss.

Sorry, you're right. I'm usually better about later events in the game, but I'm probably too loose-lipped with the early stuff.

That said, was just trying to answer OP's question. Earliest bludgeon location I knew of. Shrug.
Last edited by Bramborough; Mar 22, 2018 @ 12:58am
CellNav Mar 22, 2018 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Bramborough:
As others have said, however, just because it's a bludgeon doesn't mean it won't kill people. Especially once your Mace skills have levelled up a few notches. The Unarmed approach is actually pretty viable against lone opponents if wearing plate. Lol, I like just beating up the random encounter road knights to ensure I don't kill them, even though they're sword-armed.

Only suggestions I might have that could help (knock out opponent) :

1. Don't get the Bloodletter perk (Warfare)
2. Get the Headcracker perk (Strength)

Sadly, the player's level (like you said Bramborough) makes the player a killer, not a lover. The MACE skill tree could use a new perk to help NOT kill opponents, and perhaps the Headcracker perk could increase the chance to knock out someone based on other skill levels (i.e more strength = higher chance for knockout in the head). Then again, if players went that direction they would probably cry foul and over powered, blah blah blah ... :(
Last edited by CellNav; Mar 22, 2018 @ 1:04am
Ky'rl Ardias Mar 22, 2018 @ 1:34am 
Better to not use Weapons at all, did it myself and the best thing you can do is train with bernard for a while to get 15+ defence and use a shield to tank enemies while your allies deal with the enemy.
The other option is taking the light armor perk to dodge all attacks by sidestepping and punching the enemies with fists. When the stamina of enemies is on 0 you can just punch all of their hp in few fist strikes and they will be knocked out.
Also in all of the last battles you can just stand somewhere safe and watch your allies kill all opponents
The Male/Man Mar 22, 2018 @ 2:02am 
Originally posted by Ky'rl Ardias:
Better to not use Weapons at all, did it myself and the best thing you can do is train with bernard for a while to get 15+ defence and use a shield to tank enemies while your allies deal with the enemy.
The other option is taking the light armor perk to dodge all attacks by sidestepping and punching the enemies with fists. When the stamina of enemies is on 0 you can just punch all of their hp in few fist strikes and they will be knocked out.
Also in all of the last battles you can just stand somewhere safe and watch your allies kill all opponents

You should found the MMA = Medieval Martial Artists!
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Date Posted: Feb 15, 2018 @ 12:41am
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