Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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Nightingales' voice is wrong
Everything about this game is awesome and accurate, which I must admit also about the nature as I live in central Bohemia and spend my time in woods very often learning plants/animals/birds/mushroom species.
Anyaway, I would like to know why wouldn't the creators use actual nightingale voice in the birdcatcher's quest and use some totally awful nutcracker squeaking. What lead them to such decision?
"Hey, Tom, we've got some nightingales here, find some voices in sound bank."
"Here you go, I found something totally and randomly different, no one knows how nightingale sounds like these days, slap it in!"
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PafunaMT May 10, 2020 @ 6:43am 
It's a good question, but perhaps the truth lies in the hilarity of Berthold doing his best, most awful nightingale impression.

On another note, it's pretty cool to hear from someone who actually lives near the story's origin point. Central Bohemia must be really beautiful indeed if the KCD representation is any indicator.

theo (Banned) May 10, 2020 @ 7:24am 
I thought this is a joke quest and those THINGS ain't supposed to be actual nightingales. I think Berthold confirms that when you ask him.
Actual nightingale is known for its singing, and as a poetic symbol in european and slavic cultures, and when you hear THIS ♥♥♥♥ for the first time... it's either hilarious or ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ scary depending on circumstances. It can't be unintentional.
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Profesor Qwertius May 10, 2020 @ 8:06am 
Actually I expected the quest to be continued for wrong birds being caged, but nothing happened, so I got a bit disappointed how smoothly it went with so wrongly presented reality. There must be some prank hidden to me.
Other aspects of nature are perfectly crafted, the herbs look correct, animals I came across upon every walk in the woods are correct, other birdsongs are correct, tree species and woods composition are outstandingly accurate. The landscape is still this beautiful, but only when it rains, which has been a really scarce during last years and everything suffers from droughts.

It is also true that this game isn't dubbed to Czech because the market is so small, but on the other hand we got so many popculture jokes and notes here and there specific only for our folks that I don't feel I got something less then the other nations. I'm so happy with the outcome and so proud it's been produced in Czechia.
Capt. Slappy May 10, 2020 @ 8:47am 
Feels like this was sound design choice more than anything else.I agree the nightingales'
song is a beautiful thing; however, it is a song not widely known. Also, I highly suspect to any untrained ear (such as mine) it will sound like almost every other bird song outside. The choice of the "nutcracker"--as you put it-- seems like a clear one. Pick something highly distinguishable from the background ambiance.
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Profesor Qwertius May 10, 2020 @ 9:59am 
I also tried to think about it this way, yes. Still, if you run into a nightingale's territory IRL when it sings it's song, you'll get immediatelly blown away by the unexpected loudness, variability and very typical tok-tok-tok 'drumming'.
It must be the fact that Berthold performs badly and Henry, having no idea, catches something that sounds like bad Berthold's performance, but it is totally wrong. In the end, Berthold accepts them, because he's no birder, he's huntsman, birds are not his speciality.

Little fun fact: I noticed a bird's call while playing Call of Juarez Gunslinger: imagine deserted mountains, eagle circling high in the sky, western drama. The bird calls. Bad luck, it's one of several call types of black woodpecker, totally inappropriate to the setting (can be heard more likely here in Bohemia, actually). But at least, it sounds a bit like eagle. Like 40 % match.
Zorbas Jan 10 @ 3:12pm 
I'm hoping for kcd II to fix some glaring bird issues. The forests were great (although more would be more) but there is total lack of agricultural birds. Medieval field would be teeming with ortolan buntings, starlings, swallows, house martins and whatnot... and where are storks. Also, wetland birds are almost absent too, found gray heron from the swamp like 100h into the game, though. If it was up to me, I'd add all bohemian birds, estimate the medieval abundances, scatter them in right places, in right times of day and in game dates with some stochasticity, give henry a notepad and then we could have proper in game birding.
Originally posted by Zorbas:
I'm hoping for kcd II to fix some glaring bird issues.

Here is someone who has mastered priorities. Ones of which causes to champion and of which 5 year old threads to necro. Magnificent to behold such skill and glory.

You hear that, Vavra? Zorbas will get the spade, you get the birds
Originally posted by Profesor Qwertius:
Everything about this game is awesome and accurate, which I must admit also about the nature as I live in central Bohemia and spend my time in woods very often learning plants/animals/birds/mushroom species.
Anyaway, I would like to know why wouldn't the creators use actual nightingale voice in the birdcatcher's quest and use some totally awful nutcracker squeaking. What lead them to such decision?
"Hey, Tom, we've got some nightingales here, find some voices in sound bank."
"Here you go, I found something totally and randomly different, no one knows how nightingale sounds like these days, slap it in!"

The reason is quite simple. The birds are in a forest, with many other birds chirping around. So they had to choose a sound that was very distinctive, disruptive even to make it easy for players to hear and locate it. You can't really expect people to become ornithologists, just to finish a small side-quest.
necro warning
... Jan 10 @ 11:46pm 
Originally posted by Capt. Slappy:
Feels like this was sound design choice more than anything else.

The audio in the game is actually rather mediocre, specifically engineering and directing. I like to believe they picked this sample as an inside joke, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just chose whatever stock bird call they figured was distinct.
Originally posted by DargonBlak:
necro warning

Can we just stop this nonsense? If someone brings back a thread from 5 years ago about the combat system, about which we get three new threads every single ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ day, I'd be with you. But Bringing back a more obscure, rarely discussed question is perfectly fine in my book.
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Date Posted: May 9, 2020 @ 5:40am
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