cannot infiltrate bandit/kuman base

[WunderwaffeDude]

seriously what i shoud do? somewhere i read that to feel freely and safe i have to wear kuman's set. i i have helmet, armor, jacket, trusers, boots... and no matter what they attack me every time. even in night. what i shoud do? take their sword even?
im tired im doin this quest whole time and have no idea what to do :/ ofc i'd like to add posion and burn arrows.
btw in night shoud i walk with torch?

[Macka]

try to pick them off in small grps,, there is a entrance at the back of the camp.. use that to escape (run away) from enemies if u get to many on you. use nighthawk potion to see in the dark better , i used that with no torch and it also helps to have dark clothing on and very little noise, seems stealth in this game is an art that requires u to be noise free and almost ghost like..

[orangebonbon123]

I just walked in there in broad daylight with full cuman gear including a cuman sword and shield and they did not attacked me. However they tried to talk to me which required a skill check. Eventually I failed as they spotted me burning the arrows so I escaped without poisoning the food which is optional anyway. Also keep in mind that the "disguise mechanic" in this game is very buggy.

[Delta_BOSS]

Well as for the disguise mechanic:
would you not suspect one of your own guys setting arrows on fire or tempering with the food? lol
Only I admit, the last time I did it, I got spotted even if I thought no one was looking...

During night
- Get a disguise Full Cuman + sword/bow, or no weapon at all, go to the bandit camp first
- sabotage bandit food and arrows
- sabotage cuman food and arrows

if spotted, just proceed with sabotage on your way out through Cuman camp: the bandits will run after you, but the Cumans will take a bit of time to realize what's going on, giving you time to sabotage...

(make sure your poison is easy to select when food window pops up! otherwise you'll get hit before dropping poison in their food)

- have a sword and shield ready to a) fight back if you can handle, or b) to block every attack to win time during retreat
- whistle for your horse and leave!

tip: poison food first, it's a bit more complicated than setting arrows on fire, 'cause you need to select from item menu and you might get hit before poisoning...

Also, have very low noise clothes and low vis/consp if you want to stealth take down, or even walk in the camp a bit more silently...

[WunderwaffeDude]

i have no idea what is goin on. it msut be bugged or somethin. i have only Cuman clothes and armor, even sabre and everybodya re attakicng me, no matter if cumans or bandits :/ just every time when someone sees me :/

[Poke]

Hmm, maybe try snagging and wearing the clothes off a cuman on site just to be sure. There is usually a lone cuman guarding the small bridge when you enter pribyslavitz; just sneak-kill the dude and wear his clothes (make sure to unequip all armors you are wearing prior).

If not, you might have to go the long way and stealthy kill off the patrolling bandits and cumans one-by-one and reduce their numbers. It doesn't affect the mission anyway.

[Delta_BOSS]

Make sure to move and hide the body if you go for a stealth kill. Or you can lockpick a chest in Cuman tent and find all you need.

If they stopped you 3 times already and talked to you, then the disguise is not effective anymore.
(I don't know however if you change of Cuman disguise by wearing other pieces of armor, if they can still recognize you - never tried)

[Poke]

Originally posted by Delta_BOSS:

Make sure to move and hide the body if you go for a stealth kill. Or you can lockpick a chest in Cuman tent and find all you need.

If they stopped you 3 times already and talked to you, then the disguise is not effective anymore.
(I don't know however if you change of Cuman disguise by wearing other pieces of armor, if they can still recognize you - never tried)

I remember changing into a short noble hauberk from a cuman chainmail and they instantly became hostile toward me. I'm guessing there is a white-list of clothes that you can (and only) wear to disguise.

[Delta_BOSS]

Originally posted by Pokoloco:

Originally posted by Delta_BOSS:

Make sure to move and hide the body if you go for a stealth kill. Or you can lockpick a chest in Cuman tent and find all you need.

If they stopped you 3 times already and talked to you, then the disguise is not effective anymore.
(I don't know however if you change of Cuman disguise by wearing other pieces of armor, if they can still recognize you - never tried)

I remember changing into a short noble hauberk from a cuman chainmail and they instantly became hostile toward me. I'm guessing there is a white-list of clothes that you can (and only) wear to disguise.

Did you change in front of them like a striptease? lol

Arriving from the West of the camp already in disguise, going to the bandit camp to sabotage first is the best way to start it: 'cause the other way around brings all the Cumans with you and you must go back facing a second wave.

Starting from the bandit camp, you just procede next to the Cuman camp and, on your way out, sabotage things until you get to forest. Cumans will chase you, but they'll be late to recognize the situation (as for the 2 Cuman guards), and some will still be getting up from bed.

[D'amarr from Darshiva]

Originally posted by WunderwaffeDude:

i have no idea what is goin on. it msut be bugged or somethin. i have only Cuman clothes and armor, even sabre and everybodya re attakicng me, no matter if cumans or bandits :/ just every time when someone sees me :/

I suspect it's broken and non-intuitive, too, since they attack also if wearing a Cuman leader mask that hides Henry's face. What's also broken is that commoners everywhere else recognize and greet a disguised Henry, although they cannot see his face.

[YOGI]

Originally posted by WunderwaffeDude:

seriously what i shoud do? somewhere i read that to feel freely and safe i have to wear kuman's set. i i have helmet, armor, jacket, trusers, boots... and no matter what they attack me every time. even in night. what i shoud do? take their sword even?
im tired im doin this quest whole time and have no idea what to do :/ ofc i'd like to add posion and burn arrows.
btw in night shoud i walk with torch?

Check "Henry's" Stats yet in the Items are? Might be tad low in an Area that makes him Conspicous maybe?

[Delta_BOSS]

Originally posted by D'amarr from Darshiva:

Originally posted by WunderwaffeDude:

i have no idea what is goin on. it msut be bugged or somethin. i have only Cuman clothes and armor, even sabre and everybodya re attakicng me, no matter if cumans or bandits :/ just every time when someone sees me :/

I suspect it's broken and non-intuitive, too, since they attack also if wearing a Cuman leader mask that hides Henry's face. What's also broken is that commoners everywhere else recognize and greet a disguised Henry, although they cannot see his face.

Cuman leader mask probably adds more "conspicuousness". When I tried it, all Cumans came to me to get orders... Activating dialog with them. Don't know if they were asking for orders but you get the point.

Basic Cuman set, shouldn't be too much problem as with a Captain helmet...

Also, I'd wish they implemented real down/up visor concept in all situation, like up visor when talking to friendly NPCs, walking/riding, and down visor for combat or talking to bandits and Cumans.

[the dark wizard]

Originally posted by WunderwaffeDude:

seriously what i shoud do? somewhere i read that to feel freely and safe i have to wear kuman's set. i i have helmet, armor, jacket, trusers, boots... and no matter what they attack me every time. even in night. what i shoud do? take their sword even?
im tired im doin this quest whole time and have no idea what to do :/ ofc i'd like to add posion and burn arrows.
btw in night shoud i walk with torch?

If you wear the right gear, then the cumans should give you 3 chances where they trigger a dialog with you.
If those don't trigger then you either suffer from a bug, or perhaps the items you are wearing is wrong.

Screenshot the your inventory (picture and names of worn items) then we might be able to tell you what is wrong.

I have done the quest 4 times the last week, and it worked as intended for me (so if it's a bug I am actually interested in it).,

[Toma58]

try wearing cuman helmet that covers your face (usually cuman leader's helmet).