Dreadful frame rate FPS

[Baseborn Manjack]

I get a truly awful FPS despite having an OK machine. We're talking <10 when in combats with multiple opponents, <20 whilst walking around Rattay castle. Maybe mid 20s at best when moving around. I've looked at my GPU % usage and the cores never max out so it's not bottle-necking.

I simply have no idea why my frame rates are so dreadful. Could anyone think of why?

Most graphic settings are set to Medium, shadows/shader is set to Low though as apparently that's a big one. Draw distances reduced, V-Sync off.


Recently-formatted PC:
i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz overclocked to maybe 4GHz? mild
Geforce GTX 1080 8GB (over clocked a little bit via the software that comes with it. clock speed too)
Windows 8.1
16 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600MHz
ASUS P8Z68-V LX


Thanks a lot for your input!

[Baseborn Manjack]

Genuinely surprised at the responses I've received. I was merely looking for any advice that might be specific to my particular set-up e.g. the motherboard being too old or whatever.

If you're taking the time to respond to this with anything negative then you should probably ask yourselves why you don't have anything better to do with your time.

If anyone has an idea as to why my frame-rate is so low despite having a decent set-up I'd be very grateful.


Thanks

[Kingmo]

Build is not good

[MatDerKater]

Originally posted by Baseborn Manjack:

I get a truly awful FPS despite having an OK machine. We're talking <10 when in combats with multiple opponents, <20 whilst walking around Rattay castle. Maybe mid 20s at best when moving around. I've looked at my GPU % usage and the cores never max out so it's not bottle-necking.

I simply have no idea why my frame rates are so dreadful. Could anyone think of why?

Most graphic settings are set to Medium, shadows/shader is set to Low though as apparently that's a big one. Draw distances reduced, V-Sync off.


Recently-formatted PC:
i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz overclocked to maybe 4GHz? mild
Geforce GTX 1080 8GB (over clocked a little bit via the software that comes with it. clock speed too)
Windows 8.1
16 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600MHz
ASUS P8Z68-V LX


Thanks a lot for your input!

Its ur CPU m8.

I know, I know, it works perfectly fine for all other games and you can max out loads of games that look way better than KCD,

......but KCD just don't like Sandybridge or Ivybridge.....

I know, I tried it with a 2600K @ 4.5Ghz with a RTX 2080, and it ran like sh|t...

My m8s Haswell and GTX 980 ran it much better than I could.

When I upgraded to a 9700K @4.8Ghz, I could then run it with very high/ultra, and a couple of medium settings, with maxed out distances, at a mostly solid 60fps.....at 1080p.

Yep, this game requires a 4K capable PC to run 'quite well' at 1080p........I shudder to think what it must run/look/feel like on console........

.......Under the utter fkn train wreck performance though, really is an astoundingly good RPG.

[Bandy]

^ don't believe the hype... tho, yes, OP needs to overclock at least to 4.4 with proper CPU cooler, right?

While I agree KCD has taken me longer than any other game to research and tweak the GFX settings via user.cfg and in game, it now runs 2560x1440 Gsync monitor quite well (few mediums - most high, few+) on my i7 2700K o'c to 4.5 GHz and 980Ti 6GB.

The problem most people don't understand is that certain in-game settings <must> be dialed back for the bigger battles to render acceptable for combat, otherwise what was smooth render as you gallop cross-country can turn into a slide show.

Many have posted advice elsewhere, it gets buried, I'm not bothering anymore if people can't do a quick search for themselves. Google is your friend afterall.

Edit (briefly b/c I keep this handy on desktop): for cryengine in big battles lower these...
Textures: turn off HD
Game effects: controls the reality of combat: consider medium, or low, bodies disappear faster at low
Postprocess quality: has major impact on performance, consider medium to low
Shader quality: Low -- apparently this one has major impact on both performance and image quality
Shadows: only set to High if 4GB of VRAM
Textures: only set to High if 4GB of VRAM

[John]

Originally posted by MatDerKater:

Originally posted by Baseborn Manjack:

I get a truly awful FPS despite having an OK machine. We're talking <10 when in combats with multiple opponents, <20 whilst walking around Rattay castle. Maybe mid 20s at best when moving around. I've looked at my GPU % usage and the cores never max out so it's not bottle-necking.

I simply have no idea why my frame rates are so dreadful. Could anyone think of why?

Most graphic settings are set to Medium, shadows/shader is set to Low though as apparently that's a big one. Draw distances reduced, V-Sync off.


Recently-formatted PC:
i7-3770 @ 3.40GHz overclocked to maybe 4GHz? mild
Geforce GTX 1080 8GB (over clocked a little bit via the software that comes with it. clock speed too)
Windows 8.1
16 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600MHz
ASUS P8Z68-V LX


Thanks a lot for your input!

Its ur CPU m8.

I know, I know, it works perfectly fine for all other games and you can max out loads of games that look way better than KCD,

......but KCD just don't like Sandybridge or Ivybridge.....

I know, I tried it with a 2600K @ 4.5Ghz with a RTX 2080, and it ran like sh|t...

My m8s Haswell and GTX 980 ran it much better than I could. Thinking about buying it but don`t wanna waste money on a game not running good on my machine.

When I upgraded to a 9700K @4.8Ghz, I could then run it with very high/ultra, and a couple of medium settings, with maxed out distances, at a mostly solid 60fps.....at 1080p.

Yep, this game requires a 4K capable PC to run 'quite well' at 1080p........I shudder to think what it must run/look/feel like on console........

.......Under the utter fkn train wreck performance though, really is an astoundingly good RPG.

So will I get 60fps with my i7 4770 and my Gtx 1080 or is that game that horribly optimized and Cpu demanding that the 1080 is going to fall asleep and I will only have 30 max?

[sanguine]

Originally posted by mattdilllon:

Originally posted by Bandy:

Why are you starting another thread? Lots of them on this topic, go seek advice there...

More likely like the others that talk about this...they JUST wanna "SHOW OFF" thier Expensive PC's to others here and get into conversations (BRAG) about overspending on a PC to play a game with? To me....any overpowered PC that is used for Video Games...is a total waste of Money and time....when Lower Priced stuff..witll get the job done? High Powered PCS are really Meant to do Complicated stuff i figure? AH WELL...each to their OWN...my 15 year old POS still plays great here...(sigh)....

What an embarrassing post. His PC is nothing to write home about. It's not super expensive if you have a somewhat steady income either.
And acting like a Pentium 4 or Athlon 64 "still plays great here" is so out of the realm of possibility... a 15-year-old machine will certainly not play this game well.
Hardware like his is mainly sold to games. The hardware sold to Science projects is vastly different and his PC would be quite inefficient for most of those tasks. You're out of touch.

Originally posted by John:

So will I get 60fps with my i7 4770 and my Gtx 1080 or is that game that horribly optimized and Cpu demanding that the 1080 is going to fall asleep and I will only have 30 max?

It's the CryEngine along with bad optimization. Get the game and if it doesn't run well, refund it via Steam (playtime below 2 hours ideally, refund within 14 days).
Performance varies heavily that there is no way to flatout say you will get constant 60 fps.

[Mr Hanky]

Get MSI afterburner and check your temps, your CPU might be overheating, I had the same issue until I got a proper CPU fan, my CPU was running at 99 degrees celcius with the stock cooler now around 55 under heavy load after installing a proper one, game now runs decently on max settings @2k with a mere GTX 970 and I5 4500.

[Dufflebags]

I've got a similiar setup.
i7-3770k @ 3.5 (Turbo boost to 4.1)
GTX 1070 8gb
16gb
intel SSD 480

I'm running the game in highest detail. But I do get 'micro-studder' while horse riding really fast or in certain buildings or cities I get dips in FPS.

But for the most part I sit comfortably at 60.

Very playable. But I don't think anyone's PC can run KCD without studder. It's just a bady made game in that regard. Great RPG tho.

[Dufflebags]

Originally posted by Myopic Void:

Get MSI afterburner and check your temps, your CPU might be overheating, I had the same issue until I got a proper CPU fan, my CPU was running at 99 degrees celcius with the stock cooler now around 55 under heavy load after installing a proper one, game now runs decently on max settings @2k with a mere GTX 970 and I5 4500.

Yeah. Always buy at least a heat sink. Intel runs hot AF that's not secret.

[MatDerKater]

Originally posted by John:

So will I get 60fps with my i7 4770 and my Gtx 1080 or is that game that horribly optimized and Cpu demanding that the 1080 is going to fall asleep and I will only have 30 max?

You should be able to squeeze out good image quality with reasonable performance with that, IF you are gaming only at 1080p.........

.......that is one good thing about 4K monitors. Because the ratio between UHD and HD, is 4 pixels to 1, 1080p tends to look ok´-ish on a 4K screen.

[Baseborn Manjack]

Originally posted by Bandy:

^ don't believe the hype... tho, yes, OP needs to overclock at least to 4.4 with proper CPU cooler, right?

While I agree KCD has taken me longer than any other game to research and tweak the GFX settings via user.cfg and in game, it now runs 2560x1440 Gsync monitor quite well (few mediums - most high, few+) on my i7 2700K o'c to 4.5 GHz and 980Ti 6GB.

The problem most people don't understand is that certain in-game settings <must> be dialed back for the bigger battles to render acceptable for combat, otherwise what was smooth render as you gallop cross-country can turn into a slide show.

Many have posted advice elsewhere, it gets buried, I'm not bothering anymore if people can't do a quick search for themselves. Google is your friend afterall.

Edit (briefly b/c I keep this handy on desktop): for cryengine in big battles lower these...
Textures: turn off HD
Game effects: controls the reality of combat: consider medium, or low, bodies disappear faster at low
Postprocess quality: has major impact on performance, consider medium to low
Shader quality: Low -- apparently this one has major impact on both performance and image quality
Shadows: only set to High if 4GB of VRAM
Textures: only set to High if 4GB of VRAM

Originally posted by Myopic Void:

Get MSI afterburner and check your temps, your CPU might be overheating, I had the same issue until I got a proper CPU fan, my CPU was running at 99 degrees celcius with the stock cooler now around 55 under heavy load after installing a proper one, game now runs decently on max settings @2k with a mere GTX 970 and I5 4500.

Originally posted by Dufflebags:

I've got a similiar setup.
i7-3770k @ 3.5 (Turbo boost to 4.1)
GTX 1070 8gb
16gb
intel SSD 480

I'm running the game in highest detail. But I do get 'micro-studder' while horse riding really fast or in certain buildings or cities I get dips in FPS.

But for the most part I sit comfortably at 60.

Very playable. But I don't think anyone's PC can run KCD without studder. It's just a bady made game in that regard. Great RPG tho.

Thanks a lot guys for your kind responses. i'm still a bit confused as to how similar dufflebags' set-up is to mine yet my frame-rate is much much lower. i mean, MUCH lower. i was suspecting it was my motherboard which is the oldest part of the PC.

I will get MSI afterburner and check the temps. i had a 1060 and it performed just the same to be honest, i was expecting this 1080 to work wonders but... computers are complicated.

thanks again guys, really really appreciate it! i'll look into it and get back to you.

[Lieste]

It isn't your CPU, with a non-OC 3770K, 16GB, GTX 970 and a cheap HDD, I get 60+ fps in open country, ~50 in towns and castles, including Rataje upper and lower, *except when a lot of scripted AI is active in a dense area, especially fighting*, and 20 ish (which is a bit rougher than I'd like) during the major scripted battles - with some missing textures at Pribyslavitz battle as there is a fast travel 'jump' from Talmberk and streaming didn't catch up quickly, which is less than good...

Try setting Vsync on, but increasing frame rate limit? Setting it off and increasing limit? I get poor fps under some combinations, but generally as noted above with G-sync active in the 'right mode' for the game (AOC monitor). There are some oddities here though.

Some users have poor utilisation of the PCI-E lanes on high end cards, only 1 or 4, rather than 16, and have transformed performance by moving the card physically. Might be worth trying if playing with V-sync and mode doesn't help.


(HDD has Low streaming performance, so I routinely drop out of gallop into a canter or trot when approaching the denser areas to allow streaming to keep up with 'cross map' hasty travel. A few seconds of 'being careful around civilians' generally eliminates textures and models not loading and I can RP the work-around).

[Baseborn Manjack]

GUYS!!!!!! MY 1080 WAS IN THE WRONG PCI SLOT!!!! on the asus p8z68-v lx there are two slots, and it's not clearly written anywhere which is the fast and which one the 'slow' in the manual.

so now i'm getting (without OC) about 60FPS in open areas and 45FPS in rattay, just tried it for a few mins before it crashed (hey it's expected a bit in KCD, i'm just happy about the MASSIVE fps increase!).

i promptly went and had a wooden sword fight with mr training man!!! thanks a lot again guys, really appreciate the input!!

and to think, i'd been using the damn machine for ove ra year with the wrong PCI-slot. incredible...

[Bandy]

Well, yes, I think that would certainly handicap gaming, LOL... I commend you for a rather humbling post. Not that you are in this category, but imagine how many of the other players who jump to wrong conclusions and blame the game first.

BUT, I think KCD only crashed on me once in 150+ hours, crashing shouldn't be expected.

[Baseborn Manjack]

WHAT UP MY FRAME RATE BOIS!!!