Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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I think I quit. Long rant.
I really really enjoyed this game for so long. But I have so many issues.

Christ sake I am tired of fighting 4-5 guys at a time alone. Switching targets is clunky and inaccurate. Fights are either so easy they are boring or frustrating. I haven't even seen the last longsword combo because: left, right DODGED - left, MISS - left, right MASTERSTIKED - le MASTERSTRIKED - left, right, left leg, MASTERSTRIKED. Add to that that I am trying to pull it off with three other guys circling me and another one to two lobbing arrows.

Masterstrikes have been complained dozens of times already so I don't need to get into them more here.

I can't drink potions during combat. I understand the idea but I rarely know when I am about to be engaged so my str, defence, etc potions go unused and unavailable when I really need them, like in the above 1v5 ambushes.

My gear is constantly filthy. Go to the baths, less than two hours in game later I have dirt up to my collar or caked to every inch of my sleeve. I hate it.

My gear is constantly damaged. I have 15 tailors kits but after one fight and getting hit twice (masterstrikes) my nice shirt is torn beyond any possibly of me ever repairing. Despite being under two or three layers of other armor. Oh and it's covered in ♥♥♥♥. Again I understand Henry not being able to repair catastrophic damage to a breastplate in a field. But it's a drag.

Tired of hunting for gold. I'm trying to build up the dlc town and selling things is a chore because vendors are constantly broke. Only a couple towns even have worthwhile merchants in them and they are the farthest you can be from your forest village.

Why the ♥♥♥♥ does the timer slow down near the end???

This one is more of a story gripe than a design one but ♥♥♥♥ Divish when it comes to the dlc village. He tells you to pay for everything out of your own pocket and in exchange you get all the profits for five years and then turns around the gives everyone no taxes for five years. Thanks for giving away all the my money ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Can the Rattay guards ♥♥♥♥ off with their searches? After being searched THREE times in a row just passing through the gate to do the fistfighting quest I finally failed a speech check to get the guard to piss off so instead of letting him search I knocked him unconcious bare handed and after being chased out the gate I took down another guard with a sword. I have -38 relations with rattay soldiers and they deserve it ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
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Bospor Aug 26, 2018 @ 3:06pm 
I think your problem is that you go headfirst in all your actions in the game. This is not your typical game where brutal force and lots of mouse clicking solves it all. If you know you not good at fighting multiple guys (me neither), just don't. Be smart and make them come at you one by one. Shoot them with a bow when they open their chest to strike. I have never been in ambush so far that I couldn't escape if I wanted. In fact I think AI is too stupid with their ambushes. If they overwhelm you, get on your horse and get out. At one point when I tried escaping from captivity just in my underwear, I got discovered and was badly wounded. I was bleeding, but still managed to run from them all over the camp. There were 10 guys chasing me, I swear :) I still managed to get my gear back, kill at least 9 guys and escaped. But if I tried your approach of just facing them and fight, no chance in hell I would of made it.
I hardly ever use kits to fix my gear. All gear traders or blacksmith fix it very cheap. I don't know why is that an issue for you man.
By the end of the game i had 200K Groshen and I had no idea what to spend it on. Just sell gear to traders. If they don't have enough money, you need to increase your reputation in that area. Take up missions in that town and people would start liking you and trading more. Don't steal from them either. Sell stolen goods in different area. You are probably getting searched all the time because you steal in that area and you are under suspicion. When my reputation in Rattay was bad, damn guards saw my stolen good on me with x-ray vision. When my reputation had increased, I walked around town with a stolen sword on my side, no one made a sound :)
Lupo Aug 28, 2018 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by Bospor:
If they overwhelm you, get on your horse and get out.

This makes perfect sense, however every time my horse gets a whiff of bandits, or even hear them say something he just bucks me off. Even when I'm far away from them and no arrows have yet flown my way, I try to get back up on him and immediately throws me off again.

The only 3 deaths in HC I have are because my horse is useless. I never had this happen on normal, I have no idea what is wrong with him now but he's over reacting to the slightest hints that combat might break out, even before it does.
Bernie Aug 28, 2018 @ 1:20am 
I have the same complaints, riding along get bucked off, 5 enemies with arrows and swords, I can't out run them so I get killed over and over. then there is the getting information about the murder and spending hours and hours talking to every person I can find and hearing the same question and answer over and over, I am going back to stuff that is fun this game is no fun at all. It is frustrating and aggrivating, real life has enough of that I don't want it in my games. You guys that like this kind of game...more fun to you....as for me I tried but I'm out. Keep on gaming :steamhappy:
[MFG] Rick Aug 28, 2018 @ 5:33am 
Hey there, I definitely understand your frustration. I thought I would share a link that will help everyone a bit with the combat in the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3GlClqAsmM
I can assure you that it is incredibly important to train a lot with Captain Robard. You will level up much quicker and Henry will become like the hulk as you progress throughout the game :0)
Last edited by [MFG] Rick; Aug 29, 2018 @ 10:53am
The Faceless Man Aug 28, 2018 @ 9:02am 
Yah, hit that training yard and practice as much as possible. Do it with real weapons and rest up between practice sessions.

What it doesn't do is help with the multiple opponents situation.

Sadly the camera lock/drag has made that both tedious and immersion-breaking. Instead of quick and nimble movements to avoid hits, you're basically reduced to backpedaling nonstop while sneaking in strikes and making sure to win every clinch.

I've been looking for a mod that fixes the camera lock/drag nonsense, but no luck so far. It would've been better if the devs were smart and just made the combat dial respect the crosshair position, but they wanted it to be like a controller stick instead.

I bet there was a dev on the team that just wouldn't budge on this. It is highly unlikely there was any physical limitation that necessitated this camera lock/drag rule.
Last edited by The Faceless Man; Aug 28, 2018 @ 9:04am
CloudSeeker Aug 28, 2018 @ 11:26am 
1. Well. Maybe fighting 1v5 isn't easy. You say Strength in numbers for a reason. I know what you mean,and I hate how OP bows are but have you tried to pull out a longbow and shoot them in the head to lower their numbers. Also, if you can't do it run away. There is no courage in never retreating, only foolishness.

2. Masterstrikes sure have problem. Good idea, but it gets quite silly to the point you pretty much have to use a bow in close range combat because you never get hits in with a melee weapon.

3. Maybe you should pay more attention than. I do not have any problems with seeing an ambush ahead and plan for it.

4. You are exaggerating it, you do not get dirty that fast. However maybe you should consider that you are an adventurer, you are constantly on the road and the road is filled with muck and literally poop. People back in those days just throw their poop right out on the streets, to live in a city was disgusting.

5. You can't have a shirt under 3 layers of armor in the game. There is 4 slots for body armor: Outer Garments, basically clothing that makes you look better and go over armor. Body Plate, the main defensive body protection. Body Chainmail, the slot that add extra body protection. Body Garment, the slot that is the primary slot for clothing and armor padding. The only slots that are part of the Armor is Body Plate, Body Chainmail and Body Garment. If you have a regular shirt in the Body Garment when you have Plate Armor you are doing it wrong, you should have a gambeson or an arming doublet since that is what is supposed to be worn under armor. These do break because the enemy is trying to kill you.

6. Hunting for gold? You mean poaching? That is far from the best way to make money. The best way is to kill bandits and loot their armor and weapons. You earn money by selling those and there is quite a lot of merchant that buy those things. You also need to take into account that when the merchant reset their stock they sell all the stuff you sold to them while adding the money they have left. The Armorer and Hunter in Rattay in one of my games had like 30-50k because of how much I sold to them. Earning money in this game is not hard when you start to learn how to kill Bandits, but at some point you just have to figure out that you simply need to stop looting corpses as you do not need 200k.

7. The timer most likely slow down at the end as it might just be a hidden loading screen. If it is it doesn't really matter much if it go fast or not since you are stuck with a loading screen anyway.

8. Actually, they are free from paying taxes to Sir Divish. This is feudalism, everyone but the Nobles had money and the nobels was filthy rich. They will still generate money and you get to earn quite a lot on it as well. After 5 years you will have to start paying tribute to the Lord and not earning as much yourself. That is the story behind it.

9. The guards in Rattay only start their searches after you have stolen enough items to go over a value limit so the guars know there are issues with theft in the town. If they search you all the time, you have been a naughty boy.
bullfighter Aug 30, 2018 @ 4:04am 
This game´s gameplay and specially fighting is a nightmare.
You attack a bare knuckle man with your sword and you still cannot beat him. Is this realistic?
Last edited by bullfighter; Aug 30, 2018 @ 4:04am
Bospor Aug 30, 2018 @ 5:33am 
if you can't beat unarmed man with your sword, you should raise your skill and stop just swinging your sword like a mad man. Poke him two-three times with it and you'll win. I think ppl just simply don't understand that this game is skill PROGRESSIVE. You are much better sword fighter when you develope all those skills in combat, strength, agility, ets. You practice with wood swords not only to learn how to move and hit, but it also adds to your stamina, strength, etc. There are many tricks in the game that helps you to develop those skills and help you level up. You need more strength to lift heavy swords and use better bows? Go and start punching cows in the field. You will level up pretty quickly. You need to shoot bow better? Go to Ledechko and shoot chums on the river with a bowmen there. It will help you TREMENDOSLY with your bow skills. You need to work on your skills guys. Open your player menu and see your progress in all the aspects. This game is brilliant. Just like in real life you HAVE TO SPEND TIME AND PRACTICE till you get good at something. We all got spoiled by stupid computer games where a recruit in the army can fire a gun and drive a tank and fly choppers. WTF is that? Try right now in real life to pick up a longbow and shoot it while riding a horse!!! That's right guys, you are going to be just like Henry at the beginning of the game. Can't hit anything. But if you spent time with it and keep practicing you will notice that your bow shakes less and that you can actually hit things now. So, stop complaining and just grind. Trust me, its SO WORTH it when you finally can face all these Cumans and bandits in armor and just KICK THEIR ASSES! It feels good to be a gangster guys with leveled up skills. And another thing, KNOW YOUR WEAPONS. Don't attack a fully armored knight with a sword! Pull out your shield and mace or heavy hammer. They crack like eggs. Sword is more for mid-armored fellas, like Cumans.
Khennit Aug 30, 2018 @ 6:42am 
Practice with Bernard to learn all them tricks, then you get ambushed every metter alot of potential training then. Just get better do not retreat in front of ennemy they will encircle you just go side way deal one ennemy at the time always use shield and mace or axe and it's real easy.

Just remember that you can't make any mistake when outnumbered. But when you know that basics it's easier.
odhrain Aug 30, 2018 @ 7:17am 
Originally posted by CloudSeeker:
4. You are exaggerating it, you do not get dirty that fast. However maybe you should consider that you are an adventurer, you are constantly on the road and the road is filled with muck and literally poop. People back in those days just throw their poop right out on the streets, to live in a city was disgusting.

It you step into horse dung and your boots get dirty, it would be OK. But you also get as dirty in just one day walking around inside of the monastry. After that your monk robe looks like you jumped into a mud puddle. Could realy use some fine tuning.
JudgeJudas Aug 30, 2018 @ 10:49am 
Combat system breaks this game.
broartwar Aug 30, 2018 @ 12:10pm 
Originally posted by ExecutiveOdin:
This one is more of a story gripe than a design one but ♥♥♥♥ Divish when it comes to the dlc village. He tells you to pay for everything out of your own pocket and in exchange you get all the profits for five years and then turns around the gives everyone no taxes for five years. Thanks for giving away all the my money ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

i had the same problem with this. For the character 5 years of all the income is great and all but by the time you as a gamer start making profit from the town, you probably dont have any real use for the money. That is, if you arent already finished the game.

As far as the fighting goes, the issue really is that the way you need to play in order to succeed, is to do really unrealistic cheesy things. Bandit camp sneak in, stealth kill, then run away and come back in 5 minutes when they've gone back to sleep. The game kind of forces you to do unrealstic things to win. However, i do love this game. There were moments i wanted to give up but its a fun and good game so i kept coming back.
Last edited by broartwar; Aug 30, 2018 @ 12:10pm
dimi Aug 30, 2018 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by broartwar:
As far as the fighting goes, the issue really is that the way you need to play in order to succeed, is to do really unrealistic cheesy things.
This, so much. When I was overwhelmed (meaning 2+ enemies) I always went with the shoot them dead from your horse tactic. Sometimes the AI even breaks if you kite them for a bit too long, they just stop and walk back to where they came from while you just run up to them and slash them do death before they can even take out their weapons again...it feels janky
Last edited by dimi; Aug 30, 2018 @ 2:18pm
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Date Posted: Aug 26, 2018 @ 2:25pm
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