Fighting more then one person

[Cazy]

why is it so stupidly hard. The other guy just attacks when im still lokced on to the other guy and its almost impossible to block. Gets annoying af lol

[PixelDonut]

Originally posted by Neon Demon:

Originally posted by Shrapnel:

lol this guy...should the 2nd enemy just wait his turn like aproper christian?
kids today boy I tell ya

fken millenials want everythin handed to em. back in my day we used to fight with our d*cks out n then the winner would r*pe the loser as a sign of alpha status. no it wasnt the blackss or h*mos that spread aids we made that up.

You got issues mate.

[TheLuckyAce]

Originally posted by Rizzit:

Originally posted by Hobotango:

Fighting two person at once and winning in real life is near impossible. So I think they did good on that if they aimed for it to be realistic.

This is not true, 1v2 is no problem at all if you know what to do. Also more, I won a fight against 6 guys and witnessed that they blocked themselves by the time they all got to me the first was already down I didnt even get touched in that fight and I just had some average martial arts training. Real fights on the streets are not as they tell you in videogames/movies, sometimes it takes a few seconds, up to maybe a minute (that takes a year in that situation) peoples brains jams in these situations like for real you cant think its all just reflexes. The game does not reflect real fights in that regards, its near impossible to fight multiple enemies because the system is bad not because they want to stick with rl

Please man... dont think that putting down some drunks without training while you was trained has something to do with fighting 1vs2 or more while ALL are trained...

In an Medival fight, best with mixed weapons - you have a sword and shield for example... they have 2 longswords, 2 Axes and 2 Spears - how will you EVER have a chance when they at last got "basic" training at all? Even if you are a full trained Master Knight like there is 1 in a 1000? You simply CAN not win. You can run and turn when one is massivly faster than the rest and MAYBE pick them up that way, when they are stupid and slowpokes. But you will NEVER Win this when they have Brains.
If you have the momentum of Ambush, a Bow/Crossbow and time to prepare what you do. Sure, get 2 on Range, maybe wound another, if you lucky even wound two... than its some kind of 1vs2 - yes, you might stand a chance.

But OPEN Battle, 1 on 2? 1 on 3? Even 1 on 6? Never. Even if the 6 enemys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pesants with simple spearlike weapons... if they use their Brain you CANNOT win, they stab you from multiple directions and win over time.


So you brawl with fists as a Trained against a bunch of untrained drunks who might even are in Rage and nobrainers? Sure... possible in some way.
You Fight with Arms openly against six Enemys who wants to KILL you not just Beat you? No way.

[Cazy]

Originally posted by TheLuckyAce:

Originally posted by Rizzit:

This is not true, 1v2 is no problem at all if you know what to do. Also more, I won a fight against 6 guys and witnessed that they blocked themselves by the time they all got to me the first was already down I didnt even get touched in that fight and I just had some average martial arts training. Real fights on the streets are not as they tell you in videogames/movies, sometimes it takes a few seconds, up to maybe a minute (that takes a year in that situation) peoples brains jams in these situations like for real you cant think its all just reflexes. The game does not reflect real fights in that regards, its near impossible to fight multiple enemies because the system is bad not because they want to stick with rl

Please man... dont think that putting down some drunks without training while you was trained has something to do with fighting 1vs2 or more while ALL are trained...

In an Medival fight, best with mixed weapons - you have a sword and shield for example... they have 2 longswords, 2 Axes and 2 Spears - how will you EVER have a chance when they at last got "basic" training at all? Even if you are a full trained Master Knight like there is 1 in a 1000? You simply CAN not win. You can run and turn when one is massivly faster than the rest and MAYBE pick them up that way, when they are stupid and slowpokes. But you will NEVER Win this when they have Brains.
If you have the momentum of Ambush, a Bow/Crossbow and time to prepare what you do. Sure, get 2 on Range, maybe wound another, if you lucky even wound two... than its some kind of 1vs2 - yes, you might stand a chance.

But OPEN Battle, 1 on 2? 1 on 3? Even 1 on 6? Never. Even if the 6 enemys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pesants with simple spearlike weapons... if they use their Brain you CANNOT win, they stab you from multiple directions and win over time.


So you brawl with fists as a Trained against a bunch of untrained drunks who might even are in Rage and nobrainers? Sure... possible in some way.
You Fight with Arms openly against six Enemys who wants to KILL you not just Beat you? No way.

Aye drunks have training. Each time they get into a drunk fight they are slightly better at swinging their arms randomly hoping they hit the target. Because as you know random arm swinging takes a lot of time to learn

[Julius]

Seen too many movies where the protagonist fights 20 guys 1 by 1.

[TheLightningYu | Mike]

Originally posted by TheLuckyAce:

Originally posted by Rizzit:

This is not true, 1v2 is no problem at all if you know what to do. Also more, I won a fight against 6 guys and witnessed that they blocked themselves by the time they all got to me the first was already down I didnt even get touched in that fight and I just had some average martial arts training. Real fights on the streets are not as they tell you in videogames/movies, sometimes it takes a few seconds, up to maybe a minute (that takes a year in that situation) peoples brains jams in these situations like for real you cant think its all just reflexes. The game does not reflect real fights in that regards, its near impossible to fight multiple enemies because the system is bad not because they want to stick with rl

Please man... dont think that putting down some drunks without training while you was trained has something to do with fighting 1vs2 or more while ALL are trained...

In an Medival fight, best with mixed weapons - you have a sword and shield for example... they have 2 longswords, 2 Axes and 2 Spears - how will you EVER have a chance when they at last got "basic" training at all? Even if you are a full trained Master Knight like there is 1 in a 1000? You simply CAN not win. You can run and turn when one is massivly faster than the rest and MAYBE pick them up that way, when they are stupid and slowpokes. But you will NEVER Win this when they have Brains.
If you have the momentum of Ambush, a Bow/Crossbow and time to prepare what you do. Sure, get 2 on Range, maybe wound another, if you lucky even wound two... than its some kind of 1vs2 - yes, you might stand a chance.

But OPEN Battle, 1 on 2? 1 on 3? Even 1 on 6? Never. Even if the 6 enemys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pesants with simple spearlike weapons... if they use their Brain you CANNOT win, they stab you from multiple directions and win over time.

Actually IMHO you are incorrect as well. I mean; yes, modern Movies and Videogames have given us the wrong idea of fighting, that it is so "easy" to fight multiple enemys. However you also 've gotten the wrong idea, and tend to believe it is only possible to win 1on1 Fights.

It is Possible to Fight and win against 2 opponents, if you are trained well against "peasants" you might even win against more. You get the idea that it is easy to kill someone simply in Numbers with "stab" & "slash" from different direction, but do you know how hard it is to actually coordinate it properly in groups, even more if the "one" guy have experience and is well trained. He know the proper footing and positioning to make it harder for 2 Guys to engage, and simple swings and such won't do because such things he can read easily.
And actually you se Henry's father fight against more Enemies as well... so even the Game show the possibilty.

HOWEVER - the thing is, Henry isn't an well trained Knight, he isn't experienced at all. He is simply an Son of an Smith, and know pretty much nothing about Fighting. Obviously for him to fight against more than 1 is an pretty insane task...

[Lieste]

Position and place. If you want to hit guy #1, on the right, move to the right instead of backwards to keep close to him, while using his presence to mask you from guy #2. As the situation changes select a new target (TAB and mousewheel up/down, or 'shift' to break lock and point at new target etc) and move backwards, forwards and sideways to keep yourself reasonably protected.

It is hard to fight more than one, but with care can be done reasonably easy, even if you are wearing civilian clothing. (Once you have developed fighting skills at least... a bit too hard to even try near the beginning... better to run and try again when you can legitimately pick one off at a time).

[Dave_El_Jefe]

Originally posted by Billtency:

Make sense. Have you seen the protagonist . He's no Geralt lol.

Ikr?. Its like every one here think we must be always teh chosen one hero aka Dovakhin

[Dave_El_Jefe]

Originally posted by Lieste:

Position and place. If you want to hit guy #1, on the right, move to the right instead of backwards to keep close to him, while using his presence to mask you from guy #2. As the situation changes select a new target (TAB and mousewheel up/down, or 'shift' to break lock and point at new target etc) and move backwards, forwards and sideways to keep yourself reasonably protected.

It is hard to fight more than one, but with care can be done reasonably easy, even if you are wearing civilian clothing. (Once you have developed fighting skills at least... a bit too hard to even try near the beginning... better to run and try again when you can legitimately pick one off at a time).

The Tutorial even says that you cant perfect parry guy #1 and use the riposte on guys #2

[MacArthur]

I love armchair warriors talking how combat would be easy and fast in RL. when in reality they wont be even able to hold stright a great well ballanced sword something only nobles could get at that time.

All these kids would ♥♥♥♥ their pants if they would have to be in realistic combat.
Hell i bet they couldn't even last in non lethal sparing like this

https://youtu.be/xYxQR5haqTs?t=11

Yet they complain how moving mouse and pressing button is too hard

[MacArthur]

Better video of medieval wargames that happen in Eastern Europe.

https://youtu.be/LyFOZMWJ6Es?t=56

American nerd larpers would piss their pants

[Stellar ❤️💙💛]

Why it is so hard you ask? Have you ever tried fight multiple guys at once in real life? It is pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hard as they do not tend to wait their turns :D

[Gunfreak]

I've beaten two enemies a couple of times in the beta, havn't met two yet in the proper game.

[OneAmongOthers]

Beating multiple opponets is supposed to be hard. The locking system granted is somewhat sticky, but if you stay fluid and keep moving, back stepping and only attacking when you got a good window. You can win. Pick your fights and when to strike and when to stay away. Remember combat is at melee range. So use that to your advantage.

Watch your stamina and make sure you got on some good armor and you can take quite a few hits and never see any actual health damage as your armor and stamina soak up the hits. Blocking also helps as perfect blocks cost you no stamina and later there are perks that will tire out your opponets when their attacks are blocked. NEVER run out of stamina! Never! If you see it dropping low step back and keep out of range. Keep your stamina up!

Rush archers! Archers are almost always unarmored and go down after only a few blows. Use this same advantage for yourself! Archery is deadly often killing opponets with a single hit. The game gives you so many oppertunities to utterly destroy the compentition. It's just a lot more think and strike than the normal rapidly click and mindlessly chop games.

And finally... DON'T RUSH! Rushing is a sure fire way to a quick death. Combat is slower and more tactical and thinking. The AI is pretty decent and will for the most part block and parry stupid mindless chopping in the same direction attacks. Feint, change direction. Step back, block and counter, parry. These are your tools. Use them or ignore them and die quickly.

[Magnus Aurelius, Bright Lord]

Originally posted by Rizzit:

Originally posted by Hobotango:

Fighting two person at once and winning in real life is near impossible. So I think they did good on that if they aimed for it to be realistic.

. Real fights on the streets are not as they tell you in videogames/movies..... peoples brains jams in these situations like for real you cant think its all just reflexes.

I find it funny you tell me this because I was homeless for 7 years and fought all of those 7 years in the street, I even went to prison and jail for it several times and almost had to spend 25 yrs in Prison for opening someone skull and almost killing him.

( proof : https://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2011/06/08/dont_challenge_squeegee_kids_police_warn_after_attack.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squeegee_man

And I know those are just press article, but I also got ways to prove that Jason Ortiz, in the article is me, if you want to go further. Im saying this because I dont want you to think Im talking out of my a.s.s )

Al lthis to say, I dont need any lesson from you about street fighting and fighting in general.


"People brain jamming" is call fight or flight mechanism. And of course you will be able to fight 6 person at the same time, if 5 of them dont do nothing.

I once jump a guy that was surrounded by 10 of his friend, and they didnt do nothing to help him. I won.... I wont say I won against 10 person because Im not stupid enough to believe that if they had jump me, I would have still won.

There is a big difference between fighting random people outside, and trained warriors during medieval time. You might have forget that we are talking about medieval fighting against trained warriors.........

[Aldrakir]

Originally posted by daftshadow:

gotta say this game is niche af. the combat system is frustrating. yes i get it that the dev was aiming to make it realistic but there is one thing to be realistic and another to make it annoying af to the point it takes away the enjoyment.

couldnt they just added difficulty options to remedy this? not everyone can be a patient and boring person.

Difficulty options? The difficulty is what you want it to be, you can sneak around and kill people while they're not looking/sleeping, you can steal a ton of stuff to get the best armour and weapons and just kill people that way.


What do you mean patient and boring person, it's a game based on a realistic time with realistic weapons and animations, were you expecting the call of duty of medieval games?