Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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Sofa King 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:43
How good is the unarmed combat in this game?
I always enjoy playing barefisted in RPG's. I know there's hand-to-hand combat and an associated skill, but I've only seen it in context of brawling. Is there any hint that it'll be viable for normal combat? Or would it be one of those things that is nearly impossible to use effectively against an armored opponent?
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Bastila Shan 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:45 
So you think you could take on a fully armored knight with a sword with your bare fists alone? No
最后由 Bastila Shan 编辑于; 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:45
Sofa King 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:51 
引用自 Hoboslayer
So you think you could take on a fully armored knight with a sword with your bare fists alone? No

Me? Myself? No, absolutely not. But I do think that it's physically possible, and that there have been people capable of it. And you know...it's an RPG with skill progression...
Bastila Shan 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:55 
Maybe if you were the mountain from game of thrones you’d be able too. It’d take quite a lot of strength to punch through full plate armor
Royal Fusilier 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:57 
I guess if you got the jump on him and plunged a dagger into his neck you could win but eventually that trick would get you killed.
Kamamura 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 5:58 
引用自 Hoboslayer
Maybe if you were the mountain from game of thrones you’d be able too. It’d take quite a lot of strength to punch through full plate armor

It's impossible to punch through plate armor, but it's possible to trip the knight so that he falls and then stab a long, thin dagger called "misericordia" into the visor of his helmet.
randir14 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:06 
I don't know if it would even be possible to kill plate-armored enemies with your bare hands, because I think the game uses a system where your weapon needs to have a higher attack rating than the enemy's armor in order to injure them.
Hearsay_ 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:13 
It would be possible to beat a person in full plate. If you could out maneuver them and get thier helmet off, all you'd have to do then is punch the ♥♥♥♥ out of thier face. Difficult, but by no means impossible.

I remember watching a video update on Youtube last night from Warhorse Studios, where that bloke with the beard says that there is a hand-to-hand combat combos. Which makes sense when you think about it.

What do you do if your opponent disarms you? You attempt to maneuver in such a way that you can disarm, trip, grapple, or otherwise control the fight.

There will be hand-to-hand combat. Whether it's a dedicated skill or not - doubtful. Likely be based off Strength.
最后由 Hearsay_ 编辑于; 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:13
Elenoe 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:23 
you don't need to (and can't) punch through armor.

But technically "all" you need is hit a head to cause concussion or to cause an injury with the helmet itself. But normally you shoud never get that close to someone with a weapon. Keeping a distance is kinda the point of all weapon combat trainings.

Idea you could punch a knight with bare fists is not real.

Unarmed the most effective way to to disable a single heavy armored man is to make him fall. It's impossible to get up in an armor. And opening the helmet and stab/hit the face. But armored knights were never alone, they had support around. And were used in mass battles where the armor protects from random cuts.
=(e)= Lemonater47 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:25 
They did show a video of fighting unarmed against an armed and armoured opponent. Which included disarming your opponent. So you end up in a fist fight.
Aldrakir 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:28 
Unarmed combat would actually not be impossible at all. You would be at a massive disadvantage, obviously. But it would definetely be possible. Granted I wouldn't call it unarmed combat. I would rather call it wrestling, considering you're try to get their helmet off, knock them over, stuff like that. You would just break your hands continuously hitting plate armour.
nsaine 2018 年 2 月 12 日 下午 6:31 
well, with the devs going full on hyper realistic, you can do it, however your fists would and should eventually be broke after a few punches. Imagine some dude in real life hitting metal armor non stop with his fists, your hands would be shattered after not long.
Throbbing Dad 2023 年 1 月 12 日 下午 1:30 
armor is so protective that fights between two knights clad in plate armor usually turned into a grappling contest to overpower and deliver the killing blow through gaps in the armor, so i dont think unarmed would be as much of a disadvantage as people make it out to be, provided youre in full plate. If the opponent was using some sort of blunt weapon capable of applying a lot of force in one point, then i think your chances go down considerably.
Judeo-communism 2023 年 1 月 12 日 下午 1:54 
As far as game mechanics go, it might be possible to win as unarmed Henry against armored enemies, especially if Headcracker works with fists. It would be very difficult, and you'd need to rely on a lot of perks and lower their morale. You could also focus on assassination with a dagger instead if you prefer, or poisoning their food/water/wine/etc., that's very possible. You'd definitely want to focus on head hits and use low armor dodge builds since you can't block anything.

I'd say use fists as a last resort and focus your main play style on sneaking and assassinating. Instead of lethal poison, you can even use less harsh ingredients and just make them drowsy or weak or sick instead, making them easier to fight.
Gabry 2023 年 1 月 12 日 下午 2:52 
引用自 Elenoe
It's impossible to get up in an armor.
Please stop spreading lies. You can run and jump in full plate armor, getting up is perfectly doable.
Less fantasy, more history please.
MacSuibhne 2023 年 1 月 12 日 下午 3:32 
引用自 Gabry
You can run and jump in full plate armor, getting up is perfectly doable.
Less fantasy, more history please.

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最后由 MacSuibhne 编辑于; 2023 年 1 月 12 日 下午 3:32
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