Henry seems like a Mundane Character

[Wakobi Junior]

I know you choose your path on things but his appearance is pretty basic. His appearence does not fit the time period, he looks like a guy you would find working at Verizon....

[Wakobi Junior]

Originally posted by Shield:

Originally posted by Ugnak:

Dont get my intentions wrong, I am all for realism and building your character up, but I am just saying his "Appearence" is very mundane, he looks like a guy you will find at a cubicle working for Verison.

so did Peter Parker, nobody complained about it.

LOL thats kinda true...

[RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS]

Originally posted by MAD2169:

There is customization, just not the kind you are thinking of. The form of customizing Henry is from the different types of armor you can wear and the condition it is in. This affects how people react/look at you. Also how you go through your "life" in the game. If you are good and helpfull, people will react as they should. Resentfull if they're bad people and kind if they're good. If you are doign bad things, then the reverse, obviously. And the way Warhorse does it is the best I've seen.

That people view you differently depending on your actions is just part of it being RPG thou, same as having different equip. That is what makes RPG an RPG!

We talking about his natural features. His face, his hair....it's not like every male NPC in this game looks like Henry. Why can't Henry look like one of those? Why it HAS to be this one face?

Everyone looks badass in plate armor that goes without saying, it's also reason why in the end fact that there is no character creation does not really make or break the game.
After some time you won't even see your face either way.

But again, having that option would be great. Because there is no reason why not.

UNLESS! This is prequel to Gothic series.
Nameless Hero...Hero....He...Henry?! YUP! This is canon now.

[Wakobi Junior]

Originally posted by RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS:

Originally posted by MAD2169:

There is customization, just not the kind you are thinking of. The form of customizing Henry is from the different types of armor you can wear and the condition it is in. This affects how people react/look at you. Also how you go through your "life" in the game. If you are good and helpfull, people will react as they should. Resentfull if they're bad people and kind if they're good. If you are doign bad things, then the reverse, obviously. And the way Warhorse does it is the best I've seen.

That people view you differently depending on your actions is just part of it being RPG thou, same as having different equip. That is what makes RPG an RPG!

We talking about his natural features. His face, his hair....it's not like every male NPC in this game looks like Henry. Why can't Henry look like one of those? Why it HAS to be this one face?

Everyone looks badass in plate armor that goes without saying, it's also reason why in the end fact that there is no character creation does not really make or break the game.
After some time you won't even see your face either way.

But again, having that option would be great. Because there is no reason why not.

UNLESS! This is prequel to Gothic series.
Nameless Hero...Hero....He...Henry?! YUP! This is canon now.

Someone understands what I am saying now

[Nythra]

Originally posted by Abra:

It really suprises me that people can't understand that this game is about historic realism. Your not playing a fantasy hero Johnny Depp. Your a normal person in a historical accurate setting, the game is made for people who are tired of fantasy and easy hero games. Its not boring, Its realistisc and interesting, Its refreshing to be an average guy that you slowly build into your own character. If that doesn't appeal to you then dont buy it. But dont assume your personal opinion is law.

amen, this is the Arma of medieval games not cod.

[RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS]

I still don't understand how people can view it any other way tbh. All I see here is people attacking strawmen they created in their minds.

It's like you asked "Can I make my Henry look like Thomas the tank engine with female body?" instead of asking for basic RPG feature. DEAR GOD PEOPLE. We don't ask for modded skyrim level of character creation. Ofc you could only make character that would fit the setting of the game...same way how they made all NPCs, you would make your character.

What exactly is wrong with that. Someone explain it cause I really don't understand how anyone could be against that.

Again you may not care for it Which is totally fine, but why be against having the option? How is that in any way worse?

[AbracaDaniel]

Originally posted by RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS:

I still don't understand how people can view it any other way tbh. All I see here is people attacking strawmen they created in their minds.

It's like you asked "Can I make my Henry be Fabio with huge titties" instead of asking for basic RPG feature. DEAR GOD PEOPLE. We don't ask for modded skyrim level of character creation. Ofc you could only make character that would fit the setting of the game...same way how they made all NPCs, you would make your character.

What exactly is wrong with that. Someone explain it cause I really don't understand how anyone could be against that.

Again you may not care for it Which is totally fine, but why be against having the option? How is more options worse?

It doesn't make sense, the devs created a charater based on an actor, made cutscenes, marketing etc. All based on this character, the point is not about character creation, the point is they wanted Henry to be Henry, they created a story with Henry and not someone else. Why can't we change Geralt into a fat neckbeard or change Luke into a Chinese woman.....

[LordBlade]

I don't see the big deal myself. I mean, yes, for most RPG's where it's basically open ended and your character is a blank slate, then I definite appreciate full character customization. You can make any character you envision and enjoy being them.

But in this game, you play as Henry. He's a set character with a set look. The same as how in the Witcher games you play as Geralt. You don't get to change Geralt's appearance (other than a haircut). But for some reason people didn't get up in arms about the Witcher games not letting you customize his looks.

Of course, I'm sure some people would like to change Geralt's face. Maybe something like this?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=172097881

[RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS]

Originally posted by Abra:

Originally posted by RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS:

I still don't understand how people can view it any other way tbh. All I see here is people attacking strawmen they created in their minds.

It's like you asked "Can I make my Henry be Fabio with huge titties" instead of asking for basic RPG feature. DEAR GOD PEOPLE. We don't ask for modded skyrim level of character creation. Ofc you could only make character that would fit the setting of the game...same way how they made all NPCs, you would make your character.

What exactly is wrong with that. Someone explain it cause I really don't understand how anyone could be against that.

Again you may not care for it Which is totally fine, but why be against having the option? How is more options worse?

It doesn't make sense, the devs created a charater based on an actor, made cutscenes, marketing etc. All based on this character, the point is not about character creation, the point is they wanted Henry to be Henry, they created a story with Henry and not someone else. Why can't we change Geralt into a fat neckbeard or change Luke into a Chinese woman.....

THOSE WOULD NOT BE THE OPTIONS IN CHARACTER CREATOR!

Well and I did not know he is based on some actor :D that makes more sense now. Still...what about hair and beard? If you talking Witcher.

[♡ Katalina Aryze ♡]

Because, people aren't understanding that the game is just as story-driven as The Witcher 3. The Witcher 3 doesn't have more customization than Kingdom Come but yet people are only with that because the character is "powerful" and "cool" looking as Geralt should be.

Character customization is not a standard feature in rpg's, nor is it a simple one. It completely changes the feel of the game. In games like Dragon's Dogma and Skyrim, you create a character with various options in a fantasy world where you can join factions or where there's an arcade like structure so it makes sense.

In Kingdom Come, the main character is not supposed to be cool or powerful. Henry is literally a nobody from a small town, not destined for great things. It's a realistic approach. So that's why the devs and the community of backers are against customization options. The main character isn't "your character" but you are taking on a role of Henry, a pre-written character.

I did see Henry with a beard in one of the videos though so maybe you can do some very minor apparence stuff? People are having a hard time accepting that you are a nobody and your appearance reflects that.

[Sunrock]

It's actually a quite old school D&D or fantasy book origin story arc. The protaganist starts out as a nobody farmers son and work his way up through the story to end as a hero.

[LordBlade]

Being able to grow a beard as the game advances would actually be a neat touch.

Personally I don't mind how Henry looks. Sure, he's not got any super standout features, but then he wouldn't. He's just an average guy. He shouldn't really stand out in a crowd. Hell, even the nobles and such of the time didn't really, other than being much cleaner and fancily dressed.

[RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS]

Originally posted by LordBlade:

I don't see the big deal myself. I mean, yes, for most RPG's where it's basically open ended and your character is a blank slate, then I definite appreciate full character customization. You can make any character you envision and enjoy being them.

But in this game, you play as Henry. He's a set character with a set look. The same as how in the Witcher games you play as Geralt. You don't get to change Geralt's appearance (other than a haircut). But for some reason people didn't get up in arms about the Witcher games not letting you customize his looks.

Of course, I'm sure some people would like to change Geralt's face. Maybe something like this?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=172097881

That is because with this, they just limited themselves while making an RPG game for no damn reason.
Everone knows that it's much better when you do not play as character that is set-in-stone and rather make your own. Makes it more immersive, gives you more options ingame I mean daaamn Fallout 4 still tears my heart. And reason why it's bad all starts at core of the problem, they made a character for you to play. Same as here.

Witcher 3 is long running saga :D I remember watching Geralt in TV as a kid. Ofc IF you decide to make game about it you have make it this way.

Here they had clean slate. They decided to go with Henry. Instead of letting you be you.

You still play as damn hero. You will still gonna go from camp to camp murdering every enemy in your way.
It's only story that makes you "regular blacksmith" :D

[Wakobi Junior]

Originally posted by DontBlink +_- UrDead:

Because, people aren't understanding that the game is just as story-driven as The Witcher 3. The Witcher 3 doesn't have more customization than Kingdom Come but yet people are only with that because the character is "powerful" and "cool" looking as Geralt should be.

Character customization is not a standard feature in rpg's, nor is it a simple one. It completely changes the feel of the game. In games like Dragon's Dogma and Skyrim, you create a character with various options in a fantasy world where you can join factions or where there's an arcade like structure so it makes sense.

In Kingdom Come, the main character is not supposed to be cool or powerful. Henry is literally a nobody from a small town, not destined for great things. It's a realistic approach. So that's why the devs and the community of backers are against customization options. The main character isn't "your character" but you are taking on a role of Henry, a pre-written character.

I did see Henry with a beard in one of the videos though so maybe you can do some very minor apparence stuff? People are having a hard time accepting that you are a nobody and your appearance reflects that.

Do not think that at all, I just do not like his physical appearance I don't mind having a pre written character.

[AbracaDaniel]

Originally posted by RUN PROGRAM > SENTIONAUTS:

Originally posted by LordBlade:

I don't see the big deal myself. I mean, yes, for most RPG's where it's basically open ended and your character is a blank slate, then I definite appreciate full character customization. You can make any character you envision and enjoy being them.

But in this game, you play as Henry. He's a set character with a set look. The same as how in the Witcher games you play as Geralt. You don't get to change Geralt's appearance (other than a haircut). But for some reason people didn't get up in arms about the Witcher games not letting you customize his looks.

Of course, I'm sure some people would like to change Geralt's face. Maybe something like this?
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=172097881

That is because with this, they just limited themselves while making an RPG game for no damn reason.
Everone knows that it's much better when you do not play as character that is set-in-stone and rather make your own. Makes it more immersive, gives you more options ingame I mean daaamn Fallout 4 still tears my heart. And reason why it's bad all starts at core of the problem, they made a character for you to play. Same as here.

Witcher 3 is long running saga :D I remember watching Geralt in TV as a kid. Ofc IF you decide to make game about it you have make it this way.

Here they had clean slate. They decided to go with Henry. Instead of letting you be you.

I disagree, don't assume. Geralt and the nameless hero from Gothic has made much more impact as characters to me than any custom made charater I have played. Fallout 4 had so many face options yet the voice only fitted a generic wuss. No thank you, not in a story driven game.

[LordBlade]

Everone knows that it's much better when you do not play as character that is set-in-stone and rather make your own.

No. It completely depends on the type of game. If they want a deep, detailed story, then having a set character is better because they can write everything around that character. The character has a background, a past, goals, a clear persona.

If you're just using a blank slate character, then there's a lot of holes that can't be addressed, because there is no background to them. The character would have to be a non-entity to allow for players to make whatever character they wanted.

Now, I'm happy with the open ended games as well. I love the Elder Scrolls series (though they are getting less and less deep). Having the nameless hero works in those games and is fun. But they also have pretty much no backstory to work with. You're always just this random nobody that just shows up and does stuff, with people having very artificial reactions because you're not really a person. Just a blank slate of a hero.