Bernard attacked me in Neuhof

[Mr. Self Destruct]

So I found the bandits in the north woods in Neuhof, ran back and told Bernard, he and his men went to where the bandits were. After I asked Jacob about the hoofpick, I ran back to where Bernard was to tell him and progress the quest, and when i got there, Bernard and all the other guards attacked me as soon as I stepped foot in the clearing, and I had to surrender or they were going to kill me.

So now I don't know if I can show my face around Bernard anymore, or if my reputation was completely damaged for no reason. I mean, did they attack me because I looted the hoofpick off the dead bandit's body while they weren't around? I can't for the life of me figure out why they attacked.

This didn't happen before the latest patch, so I don't know what the deal is.

[MattE/Bierbaron]

Do you looted some chests arround the stables or in the house? Is there a red Wanted-symbol on the left corner?

[cptsavarus]

It wouldn't be the hoof-pick. You're supposed to loot that, as it's part of the investigation. Anything else found on the bandits is also fair game & not classified as stealing.

Were you running around the stables with your weapon drawn by any chance?

[Squirrell]

Did your weapons work? It has happened to me twice and both times my bow refused to shoot when pointed at him.

In OP's case it has something to do with the guy in the woods I think.

[MattE/Bierbaron]

Originally posted by Squirrell:

Did your weapons work? It has happened to me twice and both times my bow refused to shoot when pointed at him.

Sir Bernard is essential for the mainquest. So it seems to be obvious that he is immortal.

[Mr. Self Destruct]

No weapons drawn, no sneaking or looting, no stealing of any kind. Not wanted at all, my rep at Neuhof is 100, but my rep with Rattay Soldiers dropped to 20 now. There is no rational explanation, other than this game is just a buggy mess.

[Mr. Self Destruct]

Now I'm being attacked and thrown in jail for training with Bernard. You know what, ♥♥♥♥ this game.

[cptsavarus]

There's so many different ways of progressing the quest at Neuhof, it's no small wonder there'd be some weird bugs in it.
Just to clarify - did you kill the bandits in the woods yourself, before you returned to Bernard or did he & his men kill them?
And at what stage are you being thrown in jail for training with Bernard? - is that after the Neuhof thing or did you re-load a save from the training in Rattay?

[Mr. Self Destruct]

I killed the bandits, grabbed the hoofpick, told Bernard about the bandits, he and his men took off towards them. I went to Jacob, asked about Ginger, ran back to where the bandits were to talk to bernard, as soon as I entered the clearing, Bernard attacked me.

I surrendered, and then the dialogue for the quest to go find Lubosh continued as normal. No warnings or threats to send to jail. After the dialogue ended, he acted like nothing had happened. I didn't have the red bag of coins signaling I was wanted at all.

Later, I stopped at Bernard in Rattay to learn master strikes, we did the training as normal. As soon as it was completed, I got the red coin purse on the hud and he attacked again, and then accused me of attacking people, of which I assume he meant him while I was training with him, and he wanted to throw me in jail.

At that point I just shut off the game, and I restarted. My last save was before the training, but after the initial bug where he attacked me for no reason. I redid the training and nothing happened this time, it completed as normal and he didn't attack me or try to send me to jail.

My frustration levels just keep rising with this game.

[cptsavarus]

In the woods where you find the bandits, I think his AI package is supposed to have him walk up & initiate the dialogue that prompts you to search the bodies for clues.
When I did that part, I returned to Bernard before killing the bandits & he sent one soldier back with me, then he & the rest of his men showed up right after we killed the bandits - and he made a bee-line for me & initiated the dialogue.
I've also seen it where he brings all his troops along & Henry follows them - they kill the bandits & THEN Bernard initiates dialogue.
In most events it seems he is supposed to force you into dialogue in the clearing. Sounds like for you his AI package somehow got confused between "seek & arrest mode" and "seek & force dialogue mode".

Since you weren't present when they arrived at the clearing it's possible his AI switch trigger didn't get processed properly, which might leave him in "seek & arrest mode" for your arrival at the clearing rather than "seek & force dialogue mode"... but why would he seek & arrest you when you are the player?...
This makes me think that target packages in KCD are a separate thing to general AI packages. If his general AI got stuck on "seek & arrest" but his target package had been correctly switched from the bandits to you"... well he'd seek & arrest you.

The cause could be any one of several things... a missing or duplicate library reference caused by the patch maybe... or a simple case of an AI trigger "spot" being moved (this can be easy to do by accident in library editors). It's even possible that Bernard's trigger "spot" was occupied by another NPC at the time & his pathfinding just gave up trying to get to it.

As for getting the red coin purse after training... I got nothing on that. I guess it's possible you landed a blow after his combat package ended, even if he still looked like he was sparring. Maybe I'll have more for you when I go back to him again for more training.

This is where it would be helpful if the devs released some more console commands so we could fix things for ourselves...

[Mr_Meanie]

I have a side quest were I need to talk to a trader, but when I enter he runs out back door into woods. When he comes back he and his helper attack me. Then the guards run up to attack me. Game has some major problems. Shouldn’t have been released.

[cptsavarus]

Originally posted by Son of Man:

I have a side quest were I need to talk to a trader, but when I enter he runs out back door into woods. When he comes back he and his helper attack me. Then the guards run up to attack me. Game has some major problems. Shouldn’t have been released.

These aren't major problems, they're just bugs - they can be fixed & undoubtedly they will be.
Devs are always caught between a rock & a hard place with EA titles... on one hand they're pressured like hell to release as soon as possible but on the other hand they get slated by their customers for releasing games before they're ready. Warhorse have openly said they would've liked more time - but they'd already committed & going back on that in the face of baying publishers, platform franchises & customers can quickly kill a fledgeling studio - if that'd happened there'd be no fixes for anything ever.
People are playing & enjoying though; and as long WH continue to support their game with fixes & updates then the terms "released" and "EA / Beta" really should have no meaning at all to us as players. They're just dev cycle terms that define contractual deadlines between studios, publishers & franchisers.

[Roen]

hey, i got the same thing today man... i come back after hours of doing quests running in the forest to find all these charcoal burner men to find ginger..... finally i finish doing alllll that stuff, report back to captain bernard, and he suddenly wants to arrest me for shooting at people?! wtf man, i spend hours seriously today to do all these quests and now its fkt up?

[Roen]

Originally posted by Roen:

hey, i got the same thing today man... i come back after hours of doing quests running in the forest to find all these charcoal burner men to find ginger..... finally i finish doing alllll that stuff, report back to captain bernard, and he suddenly wants to arrest me for shooting at people?! wtf man, i spend hours seriously today to do all these quests and now its fkt up?

btw the only ones that i shot and killed were those 2 bandits that were troubling ginger

[Roen]

now i need to pay 250, which i dont have, and captain bernard says i need to go to jail :(

[Roen]

hm im going to reload a save and see what it does. would be a shame if this screwed up my game somehow.
i read that its possible to enter console commands is that right? perhaps its possible to write somekind of code in there to reset the AI of captain bernhard perhaps? or maybe in the game's files somehow? because ive spend hours on this quest man lol
and i really love the game so far so would be really sad if this ruins the fun