Hint for how to progress in the monastary [SPOILERS]

[Entropie]

I am trying to figure out what the next step in the quest is.

My current standings are:
I have essentially figured out that it is Antonious (mostly because of the records held on the novices + his dagger) but even though I can apparently accuse any of the other novices there is no way to accuse Antonious directly.

I am going for a nonlethal apprehention so just shanking him isn't an option.
I am considering to just find a time to knock him out and carry him out of the monastary but it would be nice to know whether the game would actually accept that as a solution or if I am possibly just bonking the whole quest with a line like that.

I have read that telling Antonious that I plan to kill Pious will proceed things but that seems like a silly thing to do after figuring out that he is my target.

Essentially what I need is for someone to confirm that knocking Antonious out and carrying him out of the monastary would work
or that telling him that you are planing to kill Pious is the only way to proceed the quest in the nonlethat direction.

If you have any specific hints exceeding the above specific question please keep them very vague in order to not spoil content for me.

[Apop85]

Hm idk if the quest updates if you carry him out of the monestary without any further interaction. but it might be worth a try. As the game saves any time you sleep in your bed in the monestary just give it a try and report back your results. If it's not working just reload :)

[Mr Hanky]

Carry him back to Rattey prison lol

[Entropie]

I would be quite amazed if that actually works, in the past getting someone into prison was always a scripted event after all, but I will try it for science!

[Mr Hanky]

Doubt it will work man, but good luck.

[76561198046838937]

If you tell Antonious you're looking for pious he thinks you're there to kill him (which initially you are), so he tries to poison your food during when you come together to have lunch. The poison fails and he confronts you about it. Then you have the option to help him fake his death, and escape out of the monastery together.

[Mr Hanky]

He wants to know if you can find an alternative way to solve the quest rather than the ones in guides he's read, Godspeed lawl.

[Entropie]

Indeed, and I purposefully did not tell the novices what I am there for. (Though I did try telling every novice beside Antonious what I am there for after figuring that it is him.)

It feels like the devs did not consider that you could ever suspect Antonious even though they did put the hints in the game.

[GinMaou]

i got to the point where i manage to make a deal with him after cough cough all i went through and all.

but due to me and my history of sneaking does not mix well. i ended up killing everyone and got a jail sign above the monestary icon just to pass that quest :P

[Mr Hanky]

I told one of the other novices that I was there to kill him then the next day before breakfast I followed him as he snuck off to report me, that was damn impressive. Not just an automated report, he physically went to the dude in charge and reported me.

[Entropie]

So i managed to knock him out and sneak out of the monastary without anyone noticing but it does not seem to go anywhere.

When Antonius wakes up he just behaves as he would in the monastary not acknowledging the change of scenerie.

I won't carry him all the way to Rattay, that seems much to troublesome since you just get stopped by guards when fast traveling with a body over your shoulder.

Seems I will have to take the silly line of telling my suspect all about my investigation ^^'

[Mr Hanky]

Unlucky bro lol.

[freddebw2]

On my second playtrough I've been extremely thorough, and after visiting the wine cellar with the circators when they were drinking, they suposedly were talking about Lucas. When I talked to him, there was some new dialogue about this. And if you help him to get them to stop bother him, he is thankful and gives you information that Antonious is lieing about his background.

The game doesn't prompt you about this, so its easy to miss, think that you've got all information out of everyone, and causes you to ignore them, when you in reality should revisit everyone from time to time.

[Entropie]

But figuring out that Antonious is the mark was not the issue. The question is whether you can actually progress the quest in a nonlethal way without giving your intentions away to Antonious.
Did anything like that becoma available down that particular line?

[freddebw2]

im investigating :)

Well it all led up to telling him "Im looking for someone" and accusing him for being a liar etc but I can't get him to confess, so guess Im gonna get poisoned. tt. For roleplaying purposes its more substantial evidence though..