Kingdom Come: Deliverance

Kingdom Come: Deliverance

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Isha Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:36am
Plate Armor is Too Weak
If you were weaing plate armor in the early 15th century you were practically a god on the battlefield. The only way to die was to take a cannonball in the face or get a dagger in the eye after your enemy knocked you down. OK your enemy could get lucky or be really skillful and get you in a gap in your armor too, but really nothing like in this game.

Don't believe me? Fine watch these three videos from three very respected YouTubers on this topic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej3qjUzUzQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rO2nM_2iBXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMT6hjwY8NQ&t=523s
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Burst Enchilada Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:37am 
I see what you're saying, and you are technically correct, but I can't handle the idea of making the late game easier.
Kommissar K Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:39am 
Could it just be that you're not leveled enough? With a high enough armor/vitality/strength, it takes a while for your stamina to deplete, and as long as its not depleted you don't take damage with hits.

Perhaps your Henry just isn't at a point where he can effectively wear the armor.
Isha Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:53am 
I think my Henry is too skilled. With the St. George longsword he can kill an enemy in full plate with one or two hits.
Kommissar K Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:55am 
Ah, you're talking about enemies.

Then yes, what you're seeing is likely the result that the game scales from Henry being terrible at everything to being a god among mere mortals in an exponential progression.
milo29 Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:56am 
he is super henry
βob__ζ Feb 27, 2018 @ 10:59am 
That's what the war hammer is for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay8DHvS__Ys
Hoenir; Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:36am 
How's plate armor too weak ? There's literally no enemy that can kill me. I've killed "named boss" with 2 stabs using the st george sword.

What we need is enemy scalling, with better gear and stats. Make the bandits AI just like Captain Bernard. At least we could have a fight...

edit: well at least for the "end game" if you could call that end game..
Last edited by Hoenir;; Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:37am
Gunfreak Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:40am 
You should only be able to kill people in plate 2 ways with a sword.

1. blunt strike combo hitting the guy in head or face with the pummel of your sword.
2. Half swording combo and there should be an animation of Henry stabbing the sword in the armpits of the enemy.

Last edited by Gunfreak; Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:47am
Hoenir; Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:44am 
Originally posted by Gunfreak:
You should only be able to kill people in plate 2 ways with a sword.

1. blunt strike combo hitting the guy in head or face with the pummel of your sword.
2. Half swording combo and there should be an animation of Henry stabbing the sword in the armpits of the enemy.

lets say, from 15 enemies, 13 of them don't even survive till i finish my combo. The other 2 die in 4-5 hits.
Gunfreak Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Hoenir:
Originally posted by Gunfreak:
You should only be able to kill people in plate 2 ways with a sword.

1. blunt strike combo hitting the guy in head or face with the pummel of your sword.
2. Half swording combo and there should be an animation of Henry stabbing the sword in the armpits of the enemy.

lets say, from 15 enemies, 13 of them don't even survive till i finish my combo. The other 2 die in 4-5 hits.

And that's the problem. Plate should have hard defence. No mater your level or skill. Simply hitting them with a sword/axe/hammer should not kill them. They should force you to use the combo. That way combos actually mater.
Massive Midget Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:49am 
lets go for 100% reality because that would make the game so much fun!
Hoenir; Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:49am 
Originally posted by Gunfreak:
Originally posted by Hoenir:

lets say, from 15 enemies, 13 of them don't even survive till i finish my combo. The other 2 die in 4-5 hits.

And that's the problem. Plate should have hard defence. No mater your level or skill. Simply hitting them with a sword/axe/hammer should not kill them. They should force you to use the combo. That way combos actually mater.

yeah agree
Lightning Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:53am 
Saw this video online and indeed piercing arrows went through platemail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-Xp56uVyxs
Lightning Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:56am 
But that's why the crossbow was used against armor instead of bows though I believe was easier for a bolt to get through the armor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMT6hjwY8NQ
Isha Feb 27, 2018 @ 11:58am 
All the videos I've ever seen of plate being penetrated is using costume armor, not armor forged by a smith and properly hardened like the one in Lindybeige's video that I posted. The one Skallagrim used in the video I posted is not forged and hardened but it does use decent steel.
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