'Hare Hunt' and 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' and 'Cherchez La Femme'

[King_Seda]

Open SPOILERS for these quests. I'm going to assume if you are searching for or otherwise open this thread, you are curious about the quests and spoiler tagging everything seems like an unneeded hassle.

First of all I know these quests are kinda buggy right now. So, what's the best way to complete these quests? Let me try to lay it out. I think these quests only open up after 'Baptism of Fire' main quest.

You get 'Hare Hunt' by talking to Hunter Nicholas in Talmberg. You get 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' by talking to Andrew at the Glade Inn. As far as I can tell, if you get 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' first, you cannot get 'Hare Hunt' at all. (I might be wrong on that.)

Now these quests have a lot of parts and interlocking objectives but I think there are basically 3 outcomes:

1.) If you complete the objectives for 'Hare Hunt', you ultimately side with the knights during the poacher/knight skirmish. You kill the poachers, follow Hare, and kill him. This FAILS 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing', COMPLETES 'Hare Hunt', and you never get 'Cherchez La Femme' at all.

2.) If you complete the objectives for 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing', you ultimately side with the poachers during the poacher/knight skirmish. You then follow Hare to his hideout and accept his offer. This FAILS 'Hare Hunt', COMPLETES 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing', and you get 'Cherchez La Femme'.

3.) While completing 'Hare Hunt' objectives, you eventually convince Margaret to tell you where Hanekin Hare is. You go there and accept his offer. This FAILS 'Hare Hunt', COMPLETES 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' (despite you not finishing what Lukesh wants you to do), and gives you the quest 'Cherchez La Femme'. This avoids the poacher/knight skirmish entirely.

(There's actually a 4th outcome where you side with Hare, then kill him, resulting in basically everything failing)

So, 3 is the best option, right? I was wondering if I was missing anything, or if the fact that "failing" Hare Hunt has any repercussions, such as with the Completionist Trophy or whatever.

Edit: I suppose you can get 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' first, complete it to the end (option 2 above), getting Cherchez La Femme', and never picking up 'Hare Hunt' at all, That would avoid having a failed quest in your log book, I guess?

[MtvYoloSwag]

I don't know, but cherchez la femme final turn in will result in an endless loading screen.
Save often, try it out.. but you may need to load a save before you started this.
Hopefully 1.3 brings some quest fixes..

[Homeless.]

I wonder how are we expected to finish all quests with so many of them bugged, broken, or they just fail because you have to choose a side...

[King_Seda]

Okay found two more things to note:

If you do option 2 above, I learned that Lukesh actually has a follow-up quest but this is messed up a bit. You can go back to Lukesh's house and he wants to give him his secret stash. The quest is "Emergency Supply'. However, the secret stash is in the very house he is standing in. You uh find it and give it to him in a matter of 5 seconds and you complete the quest (??????????).
Note, he does NOT seem to give this quest if you go with option 3 above. Seems like you must complete 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' via the skirmish route.

If you do "option 3", but kill Hare, the game totally messes up (as long as you have 'Sheep in Wolves Clothing' quest active?). You can take Hare's Ring and give it to Nicolas, COMPLETING 'Hare Hunt'. You can then steal Nicolas's Horn, give it to Lukesh, and continue on with the option 2 ending. So this means, yes, Hare comes back during the skirmish cutscene (?????????) but he's dead, so after the skirmish you can't do anything from there. You can actually do 'Emergency Supply' from here, despite Hare being dead and all that.

So, it seems like in terms of "most completed quests" option 2 in my initial post is best, because you can complete 3 quests ('Sheep in Wolves Clothing', 'Cherchez La Femme', 'Emergency Supply) and fail 1 ('Hare Hunt'). There's also the consideration here what if you never pick up 'Hare Hunt' in the first place.

So yeah this set of quests is a mess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ and I haven't even tried 'Cherchez La Femme' yet which is reportedly also bugged.

[SweatZ]

where is black Lukesh location? I'm trying to do these quests, got antlers but the quest isn't updating and I can't remember where in Talmberg he is.

Also I had no idea they were like this, how the hell are you supposed to get complete all quests trophy? does it carry over for other playthroughs where you choose the other side?..

[King_Seda]

Originally posted by Seryth:

where is black Lukesh location? I'm trying to do these quests, got antlers but the quest isn't updating and I can't remember where in Talmberg he is.

Also I had no idea they were like this, how the hell are you supposed to get complete all quests trophy? does it carry over for other playthroughs where you choose the other side?..

Lukesh is usually in a house NW of the Talberg fast travel point. Sometimes he appears at Hare's cave NE of Talmberg along the river.

[SweatZ]

Originally posted by King_Seda:

Originally posted by Seryth:

where is black Lukesh location? I'm trying to do these quests, got antlers but the quest isn't updating and I can't remember where in Talmberg he is.

Also I had no idea they were like this, how the hell are you supposed to get complete all quests trophy? does it carry over for other playthroughs where you choose the other side?..

Lukesh is usually in a house NW of the Talberg fast travel point. Sometimes he appears at Hare's cave NE of Talmberg along the river.

Thanks I appreciate it. Might leave the quest untouched after researching it and seeing all the bugs, until it's properly patched.

[PlevisVesel]

First time I killed all the poachers and Hare. Second time I met with hare, believed him which failed Hare Hunt and the poachers one and started Cherchez la femme.
I did that one and somehow I became the new master huntsman, a quest that sent me trapsing through the woods for nearly two hours searching for animals. It was not a fun time, lemme tell you. (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skittish roe-deer)

[Kaerius]

Funny thing, when I did Ginger in a pickle, I pickpocketed the coal burners while they were sleeping, and got Hare's ring and Nicholas' testimony. Both quest items which I can't get out of my inventory and both permanently marked as stolen.

[Cendrake]

Anyone knows how to meet up with Hare? I'm doing 'Hare Hunt' right now and got to the point where Margaret hangs the garland on the house so I can meet with him under that birch tree northeast of Talmber at dawn. But he never shows up when I'm there.

[PlevisVesel]

Originally posted by Cendrake:

Anyone knows how to meet up with Hare? I'm doing 'Hare Hunt' right now and got to the point where Margaret hangs the garland on the house so I can meet with him under that birch tree northeast of Talmber at dawn. But he never shows up when I'm there.

You need to wait until evening I believe. Then just look around. He's there somewhere.
But while you wait he won't interrupt you (like it happens in other quests, while you wait in a specific place)

[Henry]

Is this about a completionist trophy? I can't imagine it should require doing all the quests as they seem to be mutually exclusive, it will be interesting to know just out of curiosity.

[Cendrake]

Originally posted by PlevisVesel:

Originally posted by Cendrake:

Anyone knows how to meet up with Hare? I'm doing 'Hare Hunt' right now and got to the point where Margaret hangs the garland on the house so I can meet with him under that birch tree northeast of Talmber at dawn. But he never shows up when I'm there.

You need to wait until evening I believe. Then just look around. He's there somewhere.
But while you wait he won't interrupt you (like it happens in other quests, while you wait in a specific place)

I'm pretty sure she said that they would meet at dawn, but nevertheless tried dusk already. I stood exactly in the spot and also looked around - didn't went further into any direction tho. If he's really close in the vicinity it seems he's just not there at no time of the day. Is he further away from that spot than just a few meters?

[tkidcharlemagne]

Originally posted by Homeless.:

I wonder how are we expected to finish all quests with so many of them bugged, broken, or they just fail because you have to choose a side...

Great mission. Not bugged. Like the majority of the complaints. You get the result your actions merit. Simple as.

[tkidcharlemagne]

Originally posted by PlevisVesel:

First time I killed all the poachers and Hare. Second time I met with hare, believed him which failed Hare Hunt and the poachers one and started Cherchez la femme.
I did that one and somehow I became the new master huntsman, a quest that sent me trapsing through the woods for nearly two hours searching for animals. It was not a fun time, lemme tell you. (♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skittish roe-deer)

Dude. This mission is driving me insane. I found three of them on the boundaries of forest. Killed them and I couldn't reach. Frustration. Indeed. These buggers are real hard to find and you need all of them at once so as time progresses the ones you have are degrading.

[Cendrake]

Originally posted by tkidcharlemagne:

Originally posted by Homeless.:

I wonder how are we expected to finish all quests with so many of them bugged, broken, or they just fail because you have to choose a side...

Great mission. Not bugged. Like the majority of the complaints. You get the result your actions merit. Simple as.

Maybe look it up first. There are a lot of accounts of bugs regarding the three quests. Personally, I'm not able to begin the Sheep In Wolf's Clothing quest, because Andrew the Innkeeper simply won't come up with the dialoge option. Found out on reddit that I'm not the only one with this problem.

What I'm most curious about right now is how the 'Completionist'-Achievement works. I hope 'completed' doesn't mean we're not allowed to fail them. Because if not then these three quests definitely break it. From what I could find out so far there's no way to fulfill them all.

Btw if anyone has the same problem: I finally found Hanekin. In the evening (although I'm quite sure Margaret said dawn) you can find him a little bit further east from the road behind the bushes. I couldn't see him from where the quest marker placed me. Had to leave the area and go a little bit into the woods.