Cuman camp help (Nest of Vipers quest) *SPOILERS*

[Samurai08]

I put on the full suit of cuman armor like the guides told me to, walked across the bridge andddd they attacked me, over and over. The camp is nearly impossible to sneak into and without that working I am completely stuck. When I first tried I didnt even try to get in and sabatoge but there was zero chance we were going to win so after trying several times I reloaded and decided to do some sabatoge but now I still can't get into the camp

[Ñ]

Well, i found a position they can't reach in their camp and shot them all one by one while they were glitching in the objects. :/
I would really enjoy doing it as it's intended, but well... Then i poisoned their food and burnt their arrows. Slightly immersion breaking, lol

[Samurai08]

Update - I entually gave up and just alerted one or two guards at a time until they were gone and then sabatoged the arrows

[Hans CakeStealer]

I made the mistake killing all the cumans thinking that there would be no need to sabotage the camp, but i was wrong cause they came back to life once the event started.

[Abacus]

Uh....Make sure you burn the hay to scare off the archers during the second phase (when you kill the captian.) you pretty much HAVE to do this if you didn't sabatoge. A bow is also sometimes needed towards the end (after fighting the Cumans.) To at least gain their attention.

I won after losing like 20x. I only had to do these steps once to win. (zero sabatoge, fully svouted.)

[hasdrubal]

What I meant by success concerns actually the sabotage part. The fight itself isn't that hard (well, you need good armor, that's it, and drink a marigold potion if you need to between two steps). I finished the mission yesterday without being able to have the confirmation of the sabotage once speaking to Radzig. That's if the sabotage is actually possible that interests me...

[Abacus]

The way To sneak in from what my wife said:

She scouted, and after getting track by a gurd a little ways away from the camp, she knoced him out took his guear (without getting bloodied.) She stayed away from the guards, but just walked in wearing the enemies uniform. she couldn't get close to food without the "huh, whos that?" but snuck to the arrows and managed to sbatage them.

I personally didn't witness this, and shes the type that will reset if she messes up (even if nothing happens. So It could have taken some time.

I just scouted a went back to Razig and did the steps I mentioned. So, it's beatable without sab. Although the time I did win I went with the highest reinforcements. (my previous attempts where with the second highest.)

[Ason]

Postat inițial de Samurai:

But the fight without sabatoge is nearly impossible

I didnt do any sabotage or sneak into the camp. I just went on the outskirts to the west and was able to get enough info to satisfy the quest and then I went to report to Radzig.

I had no problems taking on the camp with no sabotage.

Those big battles are really quite easy, the enemy is always distracted by your friends and getting in cheap shots from behind is not very difficult.

[Abacus]

Postat inițial de •҉ Ason:

Postat inițial de Samurai:

But the fight without sabatoge is nearly impossible

I didnt do any sabotage or sneak into the camp. I just went on the outskirts to the west and was able to get enough info to satisfy the quest and then I went to report to Radzig.

I had no problems taking on the camp with no sabotage.

Those big battles are really quite easy, the enemy is always distracted by your friends and getting in cheap shots from behind is not very difficult.

The issue tends to be that you fail regarding the loss of too many allied soldiers. The best options to combat this are taking as many reinforcments when Radzig asks about the enemies' size. Also making sure to burn the hay stacks first thing during the "Kill the Captian" phase.

[Abacus]

Postat inițial de travleer33:

After reporting (and failing to sabatoge because of the misleading message when you only do 1 of each) I went back before the assault and managed to kill the entire camp pretty easy with some selective pulling and liberal use of the bow.

Of course, at that point the quest was already locked into the assault script, so that did not matter.

Bringing a usable bow is a great advantage during the last mob as their archers are unreachable in melee.

[milo29]

Dont use the reward false cuman armor.

First you have to sneak and turn around the nest to right to see a hidden entry back the three guards.

In this entry you get a chest (easy lock) with a cuman armor. Use this armor (or another cuman armor but with full helmet) to infiltrate the cuman camp and you do objectives without risk. Except a cuman can intercept to question you, in this case dont speak with him, just reply "grrrr".

Next if you want infiltrate the adjacent bandit camp you must use another method I dont know wich at this time because I escaped after bandits discovered me despite my cuman disguisment..

[hasdrubal]

That doesn't change a thing. Once challenged to speak in hungarian, you can only use once every answer and three of the four can achieve a success provided you have enough skill. And you lose quite quickly all your answers, being challenged quite often. But that's not the problem. The problem is that I didn't so far heard of someone being able to poison the pots without attracting attention, being able to light up the barrels and get the success for this secondary goal that is sabotage...

[Abacus]

Postat inițial de milo29:

Dont use the reward false cuman armor.

First you have to turn around the nest to right to see a hidden entry back the three guards.

In this entry you get a chest (easy lock) with a cuman armor. Use this armor (or another cuman armor but with full helmet) to infiltrate the cuman camp and you do objectives without risk. Except a cuman can intercept to question you, in this case dont speak with him, just reply "grrrr".

Next if you want infiltrate the adjacent bandit camp you must use another method I dont know wich at this time because I escaped after bandits discovered me despite my cuman disguisment..

And you can use an unbloody Sentries' armor.

[milo29]

I sabotaged food and arrows without problem

[Freedom_exp(-1)]

i first played that mission after barely scouting the camp. Then I tried it after burning the archer's arrows: it didn't change anything... Don't waste your time sabotaging... just get into the action.

[hasdrubal]

Then how did you do, not to get the attention of anybody while poisoning the food? Everytime I tried to put poison in a kettle, I got someone running from the other side of the camp to confront and fight me.

Sure you can do it without sabotaging. But that's not my point. The plot theoretically enables to do some sabotage, why shouldn't it be possible to do it without glitches or with a reasonable difficulty? Why do such a number of people end up killing most of the guards? Bad videogame habits for sure, but also simply because the plot is broken or half so.