combat is RUINED in 1.9

[sрy]

prior to 1.9 the combat was perfect
but now it's completely fuc­ked when fighting more than 1 enemy:
enemies tackle you all the fu­cking time while being IN FRONT OF YOU
they often start running behind you and tackle you there despite having been IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE
master strokes are bugged to the point that they sometimes don't even work at times (ie. you go into the animation of a master stroke, but your enemies DON'T and you deal no damage)
combos are bugged and don't work sometimes in the same manner (you go into a combo animation, but the enemy DOESN'T and you deal no damage)
fighting more than 1 enemy is a fuc­king chore now filled with nothing but frustration (because of all the bugged tackle bu­llsh­it), meanwhile in the past fighting 4 enemies was CHALLENGING and FUN

having spent 280+ hours in this game, and having played all of its versions since launch I have to say that the combat is absolutely FU­CKED in 1.9
the sad thing is, I used to look forward to encounters with enemies and the combat, but now it's so broken that I DREAD HAVING TO FIGHT with more than 1 enemy
with the main part of the game being so broken I'm considering switching my review from "recommended" to "not recommended", that's how badly they fu­cked the combat up in 1.9

what the fu­ck was warhorse thinking with 1.9?

[sрy]

Originally posted by Enormous Willy:

Yeah, just came here to post same issue, as a starting player it is almost unplayable, have to use bow most of the time. Nice to see others agree.

well the combat is good once you get used to it and understand how it works, and I think bows make the combat way too easy, but the tackling bug I mention in the OP really makes the melee side of it a lot less enjoyable with more than one opponent, since henry will start trying to run in front of the enemy for no reason at all, even though I'm walking away from said opponents while facing them

[Aeden]

I thought the tackle was just a weird mechanic.. picked the game up a couple days ago and opponents will instantly tackle me the moment I get within striking distance.

I usually have to endure two or three tackles before I can get actually get a swing in.

Even tried kicking them away, and all it does is tire me out while they get a free tackle in.

Thankfully it's only a minor nuisance in 1v1, as it doesn't seem to harm me in any way. Though I predict group combat will be troublesome.

[sрy]

Originally posted by Aeden:

I thought the tackle was just a weird mechanic.. picked the game up a couple days ago and opponents will instantly tackle me the moment I get within striking distance.

I usually have to endure two or three tackles before I can get actually get a swing in.

Even tried kicking them away, and all it does is tire me out while they get a free tackle in.

Thankfully it's only a minor nuisance in 1v1, as it doesn't seem to harm me in any way. Though I predict group combat will be troublesome.

I think you mean something else when you say tackle, maybe you meant a clinch?

[Wabbit.]

I returned after long time to the game, and I did notice same thing, the combat is f'ed!

[AfLIcTeD]

I was doing the Robber Baron quest and went to parley. I thought I wonder if I can take all these on. No bow or cheesing. I think there is about 10 or so men there. So I saved in front of the camp. I stealth killed the guy at the front with a polearm, cos ♥♥♥♥ that. Then all the others charged me.
That's where the fun started, it was a right cluster ♥♥♥♥, 10 guys trying to hit me.
Was getting flanked, thrown about all over the place, master striking attacks left a right, perfect blocking, even getting some of my own attacks off. They were even hitting each other lol. This must have gone on for about 2 ingame hours as it was now dark. In the end I came out the victor, was like, YES suck on that bandits, was even on 47 HP. Went back to the camp to find 5 of them asleep. So I put them to sleep permanently. It was hilarious.
I was only using mediocre gear too. So fighting multiple opponents is definitely not impossible, you just have to approach it differently.

[sрy]

Originally posted by AfLIcTeD:

I was only using mediocre gear too. So fighting multiple opponents is definitely not impossible, you just have to approach it differently.

I've done the robber baron quest plenty of times and had no issues with it either, but no one said that fighting multiple opponents is "impossible". I specifically said that it's frustrating and not challenging due to the seemingly bugged tackling from the front (with henry literally charging to the side of the enemy when that happens) despite walking backwards

I don't know which time it is that I've mentioned this exact problem, yet regardless of how many times I do it seems to fall on deaf ears.

and in case you somehow manage to miss this again: nobody said combat with multiple opponents is impossible. getting tackled from the front while walking backwards is a bug. henry involuntarily starts rushing forward (as if I was trying to run past the enemy) despite ME walking backward when the bugged tackle occurs. this should not happen, plain and simple.

[AfLIcTeD]

True you didn't say it was impossible, but alot of others do. You were just complaining about how bugged and broken it is. So I was just posting on why I think it isn't. Or does only your opinion matter in this? I had fun fighting them despite all these "broken" things you talk about.

[Alexis]

I LOVE this feature because it makes the game that much more immersive and more difficult. This game is DOES NOT hold you hand in anything.

[McFlurry Butts]

Originally posted by AfLIcTeD:

Seems like your just mad that you can't easily slay multiple enemies.
You ever been in a fight with multiple people? Do they all just wait their turn?
Seems realistic to me that they would tackle you and push you around.
They didn't just hit each other with swords you know. They tackled, grappled, kicked, pushed and tried to knock them off balance.
Regarding the animations not finishing, you most likely got interrupted by someone else.
I like it the way it is, I can't easily beat 3+ opponents now.

This, realism is literally the best part of the game, would be better if dying would cause you to literally lose the game in your library too.

[RandalMcdaniel]

i just started playing this game for this first time ever and i find the combat really bad because of the grabbing. So i find this thread interesting. I thought to myself "there is no way the world could have loved this"

[Noeat]

Originally posted by RandalMcdaniel:

i just started playing this game for this first time ever and i find the combat really bad because of the grabbing. So i find this thread interesting. I thought to myself "there is no way the world could have loved this"

dont worry.. ppl make mistakes.. when they buy game what they dont like and play game when they dont like their mechanicsa..
its the same like when u go to Darksouls forum.. at least one thread will be there like "this game is so hard.. it must be bug" :)
sadly, many ppl think KC:D is dumbed down and retarded like Skyrim.. and when they realized its not.. then they cry at forum..

[RandalMcdaniel]

Originally posted by Noeat:

Originally posted by RandalMcdaniel:

i just started playing this game for this first time ever and i find the combat really bad because of the grabbing. So i find this thread interesting. I thought to myself "there is no way the world could have loved this"

dont worry.. ppl make mistakes.. when they buy game what they dont like and play game when they dont like their mechanicsa..
its the same like when u go to Darksouls forum.. at least one thread will be there like "this game is so hard.. it must be bug" :)
sadly, many ppl think KC:D is dumbed down and retarded like Skyrim.. and when they realized its not.. then they cry at forum..

or i just think some guy pulling my wrist into his chest all romanticly every 5 seconds is annoying

[sрy]

Originally posted by AfLIcTeD:

True you didn't say it was impossible, but alot of others do. You were just complaining about how bugged and broken it is. So I was just posting on why I think it isn't. Or does only your opinion matter in this? I had fun fighting them despite all these "broken" things you talk about.

despite how many times I explain the number one thing that is clearly bugged, it always falls on deaf ears and people keep saying it's not a bug when it clearly is, and refer to something else entirely... sigh...

[RandalMcdaniel]

i just killed 3 soldiers using my sword on my return trip to skalitz and i got to say i enjoyed combat a lot more than the melee bits

[sрy]

Originally posted by RandalMcdaniel:

i just killed 3 soldiers using my sword on my return trip to skalitz and i got to say i enjoyed combat a lot more than the melee bits

I enjoy the melee combat most of all
if the tackle-from-the-front-despite-moving-backwards bug (with henry lunging at the enemy's sword involuntarily for no reason) would be fixed, that would make it even better, as it was before 1.9, really