The Surge

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goobyplz Apr 23, 2018 @ 10:47pm
What armor set do you use?
I have been using scarab armor as soon as it showed up, I really cant justify anything outside of it. Stacking rediculous levels of HP seems to allow me to compensate for just about anything the game throws at me.
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MundM Apr 24, 2018 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by Gooby Plz:
Im surprised at how much not tanky armor I am seeing, I dont know how everyone is getting around and surviving without scarab's superior defense and hp, but then again, I just killed black cerberus at CP 65 and it looks like everyone is running at higher CP
I played it a bit like Bloodborne, so speed it is. I can kill everything with just a broken pipe, because nothing gets me ;) Only tight corridors aren't made for my strategy, that's why I level all weapon types in order to have some 1-2 hit kills on those corridor cleanup bots.
Malidictus Apr 24, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Shadow_Actual:
Originally posted by Malidictus:
How so? Seems to be working pretty well for me so far. It's slow, but that's as bad as it gets.
Yes, it is slow. Also, its set bonus is very situational and defense does very little in this game. Speed is life - if you dodge attacks you won't need to heal nearly as often, and stamina regenerates but energy and injectables don't.

Be that as it may, speed alone doesn't leave much room for error. Rhino allows me to tank a few hits to the chest before I stagger, meaning I can dodge out of a combo which would stagger a lighter armour. The higher impact, when combined with a heavier weapon, means I can typically stagger enemies before they're able to respond and usually kill them before they get back up. And while, yes, the set bonus for Rhino is suspect, it does actually work pretty well when you DO have a counterweight installed. I was able to successfully troll Cerberus guards without too much issue, never letting them get a hit in after their first miss.

Again, I understand that speed is important, but I've found that the long reach of a larger weapon and the high impact of a heavier armour set can typically make up the difference. As long as I know the enemies well enough that I don't commit to an attack in the middle of their combo, there isn't a lot that can threaten me, at least not one-on-one. Doubly so considering how often enemies stagger on block.

I've never been a fan of fast, mobile tactics in video games. In the Surge as in most others, I'll typically build for the slowest, tankiest build I can find, and I honestly can't find anything too much better than Rhino for that. Realistically speaking, what are my options? Cerberus and Proeus aren't as "heavy," Ogre's set bonus is even more situational (to say nothing of how ugly the set is) and that's pretty much it. I haven't had the opportunity to play with the Tenshi Angel yet, but that's the other issue I have with those armour sets - their energy consumption does not justify their benefits. Angel, for instance, requires a good 12 energy more than Rhino yet offers very little in return.
Adeon Hawkwood Apr 24, 2018 @ 2:52pm 
I like most of the Operator armors. I tend to favor a relaively mobile fighting style anyway so speed works well for me.

Lynx is nice early game and can hold you into mid-game if you want. Liquidator is good for Biolabs and R&D since it lets you basically ignore the toxic pools and gas grenades. Eagle is nice for Boss fights since it means 33% more healing. Chrysalis comes a bit late to be worth bothering with in the regular game (since I prefer Eagle for boss fights anyway) but is great in NG+ since the heal on kill combined with an Agression Amplifier takes care of most healing needs.

I haven't tried the new Asclepius armor. It sounds ok although I'm guessing you need a fast weapon to take advantage of it so I suspect I'll still prefer Chrysalis, espeiclaly since I really like Single-Rigged weapons and building up enough energy to max out without killing your target is tricky with them. I figure it probably works better with Dual-Rigged or One-Handed weapons and maybe Staves.
Last edited by Adeon Hawkwood; Apr 24, 2018 @ 2:58pm
Tungsten666 Apr 24, 2018 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by nullforceomega:
I use Judge 2.0 and the severed rotor for basically every situation. As for implants, with 190 core energy I can't quite fill out my slots, so I have a pretty balanced load of health (6, 1 is an XL), stamina (4, 3 are XL) and energy (3, 1 is an XL).

I use three Mk V vital injections, an SNS disinhibitor, 3 pneumatic calibrators, an omni-audit vital boost, an ablative array, 2 aggression amplifiers, 2 red x cables and two sustaining arrays, it totals 188 of 190 used and leaves me with six unused slots.

I never run out of stamina, and once I get enough core levels to fill out the rest of my slots I will never run out of energy (before I added the XLs I had all of my slots filled, and I was simply unstoppable.)

Christ, 190 CP? I'm charging through NG++ atm, I am still at 130 and feeling like I'm cheating :)
StormAnimal Apr 26, 2018 @ 2:45pm 
gorgon set for everything during the first 4 runs. with ng+4 and ongoing i use black cerberus for normal enemies and gorgon for bosses. cp is 1410, depending on my build i usually dont't need more than 300.
SmilingBerserker Apr 26, 2018 @ 2:59pm 
The Nano gear is my prime set. Health after every kill is a life saver and the passive speed boosts are a welcome addition.
Gunheart Apr 26, 2018 @ 3:56pm 
I used to like Ogre a lot despite its AOE slam being so situational I forgot it even had it. It was bulky and kinda cool and unique so I liked it quite a bit.

On NG+ though, I fell in love with the Tenshi jumpsuit and discovered it looked amazing with the Proteus set, so it's become my main now. The enhancement to all health regen is a major plus since it apparently enhanced injectables and Aggression Amplifier, though I'm currently at 170 CP and slotting every implant I wanted is a bit of a hassle. I really am looking forward to NG++ when I can put even more implants on this.
!FT!Protocal Apr 26, 2018 @ 4:34pm 
Originally posted by Gooby Plz:
I have been using scarab armor as soon as it showed up, I really cant justify anything outside of it. Stacking rediculous levels of HP seems to allow me to compensate for just about anything the game throws at me.

Iron Maus!!!
goobyplz Apr 26, 2018 @ 7:03pm 
After more review with the armor sets I realized I was destroying myself with scarab, the bonus is nifty at low levels but at about 65 I actually get MORE hp using lynx and stacking more quality health implants, plus I get a lot more slots for more general implants.

Asclepius is the ♥♥♥♥. I cant get down with any goliath armor.
RabidChoco Apr 26, 2018 @ 8:00pm 
I'm more of a Mantis guy; but I see the appeal of the Gorgon gear as well. Because arguably, managing your energy and stamina are more important than your health.

Again, largely a fan of Mantis, alongside using the MediVoltaic injectors.
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Date Posted: Apr 23, 2018 @ 10:47pm
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