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Cutting Edge DLC - OP?
Hey guys!

So iv'e started playing the game today after getting a free copy from a nice guy here on the forums (Thank you Kruger). I've purchased the additional content (all dlcs) and the game is simply great! It is!
One thing is bugging me though...

So i found an astronaut enemy next to a crane-like enemy, which by the way kicking my♥♥♥♥♥ and i figured this npc was a part from the Cutting Edge DLC. Well my god, his equipement feels so bloody op!
I mean.. im just at the beginning of the game (literally the starting zone) and the game already throws at me a farmable enemy that grants me super strong gear, and i didnt even upgraded it yet. Was this intended? :/

Also, by the looks of this set, i'd say it's something you should defintely be getting at the end of the game. Its huge, fancy and feels like a high-tier set that you shouldnt throw away just like that at a new player that just started playing the game.

I dunno, this is just my opinion. What do you guys think?
Last edited by Lord Commander Dante; Oct 26, 2018 @ 12:14am
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Neunmalklug Oct 26, 2018 @ 12:43am 
and its also ver core power intense. so not really op.
and i agree, it would fit better to the last area. but maybe the astronaut was in a rocket, which ended in this scrapyard, who knows ;)
Dave_Jame Oct 26, 2018 @ 12:44am 
Teh Angel gear is not that bad. But its placing was not the best.

It does make the first area a bit more easy, as it gives MK II material. But personally I think the bigger problem is, that even in the base game, there was to may Single rig weapons put into the first area (3+1 out of 6+1 in the game) and whit it they just added another one.

MK II components are not that much od a problem as enemies wearing these are become common rather early in to the 2nd area.
As later balance goes. Angel gear is not that great, takes a lot of CP and its bonus is good only for Codename weapons (there are 11 in the game, 6 of them were added by the free DLCs) a there are more interesting armor sets.

IMHO the 2nd paid DLC (GBA) is far worse when it comes to breaking the base games intended balance
Last edited by Dave_Jame; Oct 26, 2018 @ 12:45am
StephBx Oct 26, 2018 @ 2:24am 
You think The two Angels in the Abandonned Production are OP and in a sens, they are. When you start the game, they are faster stronger and have better gear than you. The best thing is to evade them until you have a full lynx MkI set to try to evade them before farming them for their suit and weapon. You can then farm more MkII components from them to improve the Lynx, the Rhino and the Angel set that you can find In this area.
If you take your time, you should have three sets of armor, 2 one handed weapons, one twin mounted weapon, three single mounted weapons, 1 heavy weapon and 1 staff weapon all in MkII before fighting the area boss and leaving the place. You should even have enougth scrap to upgrade your core enought to use the Angel and all the best implants you can mount on your rig.
Originally posted by vigierstephane:
You think The two Angels in the Abandonned Production are OP and in a sens, they are. When you start the game, they are faster stronger and have better gear than you. The best thing is to evade them until you have a full lynx MkI set to try to evade them before farming them for their suit and weapon. You can then farm more MkII components from them to improve the Lynx, the Rhino and the Angel set that you can find In this area.
If you take your time, you should have three sets of armor, 2 one handed weapons, one twin mounted weapon, three single mounted weapons, 1 heavy weapon and 1 staff weapon all in MkII before fighting the area boss and leaving the place. You should even have enougth scrap to upgrade your core enought to use the Angel and all the best implants you can mount on your rig.
I kinda did all of that :) Stuck on the first boss, still trying to figure him out
Lodau Oct 27, 2018 @ 4:31pm 
That angel/astronaut was totally kicking my ass so I finally skipped him.... ANy tips to defeat him?
Aleera Oct 28, 2018 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Lodau:
That angel/astronaut was totally kicking my ass so I finally skipped him.... ANy tips to defeat him?

Dodge away, learn his patterns, then with using a single rig weapon, run at him for a slide attack, then dodge back out. Do this untill he kneels down to heal, then execute him. It's a cowardly way, but it's extreemly easy. Just be sure there's no more drones around.

Another is, block any non leaping of the astronaut attack with a single rig equipped, then immediatly counterattack while still holding block. The upswing, followed by a downswing on a human opponent will always stagger. Just dont hold block to long, because it drains stamina.
Nerevar Oct 28, 2018 @ 10:41am 
one word : SPACEING. no pun intended. this guy is super slow. he just SEEMs fast if you stay close to him hell wreck you. just keep your distance and wait for openings. learn his 2 combos and bait him into doing them then just outspace them and counter attack once or twice AT MOST. otherwise he will get you due to high stability.

just let him heal as he only does that once.

if you learn spaceing on this guy you can take him down as soon as you get your core back (thats when he spawns inside that empty rocket shell in the very first area with the weak drones).
this can give you codename engelheart stupidly early. and this weapons makes everything includeing pax a joke and then you can get pax v2.0 which is just better in very way on most enemies. i always kill him with the starting pipe to get his weapon (remember to aim for the weapon arm with all attacks and perform a finisher)

he is way tougher than all other enemies (excludeing the boss) on the first area but he is nowhere near OP. think of him like a black knight from dork meme souls. except that these 2 guys respawn.
Last edited by Nerevar; Oct 28, 2018 @ 10:43am
Terra Blade Oct 28, 2018 @ 4:07pm 
The set actually has a few drawbacks. Of the "goliath" gear type it actually has lower defense then other sets, it also only has it's gear bonus work with the "prototype" weapons which depending on the type of weapon you like may be an issue. Also...as "goliath" types eat a lot of core power it will be hard to use in the beginning. About the only really "OP" thing about it might be the fact the weapon is about on par with the Ver 2.0 of the first boss....and there are better weapons for that type.

The biggest thing if you really are trying to min max goliath gear is that you don't have to worry about poison gas wearing the set.
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Date Posted: Oct 26, 2018 @ 12:14am
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