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Tyler McRae May 29, 2017 @ 6:53pm
Metamorphing Talons vs Firebug Throttle 2.0
Any reason to use the talons over the Throttle? I can't see a reason, given how stupid strong the throttle is. xD
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Rasalom May 29, 2017 @ 7:17pm 
The talons have a higher damage, by 1 point, and *might* be faster. I never tried using the Firebug-2 after getting the talons. I finished the game using the Metamorphing Talons and Chysalis armor.

On NG+ now, and using Claws of Gestalt.
Tyler McRae May 29, 2017 @ 7:19pm 
Originally posted by Neuro:
The talons have a higher damage, by 1 point, and *might* be faster. I never tried using the Firebug-2 after getting the talons. I finished the game using the Metamorphing Talons and Chysalis armor.

On NG+ now, and using Claws of Gestalt.
Do the talons just -not- gain energy? They appear to have no energy gain, according to the stats.
Rasalom May 29, 2017 @ 7:23pm 
I never had an issue with them. Once I got the security rig, I farmed the talons and chrysalis armor and then played the rest of the game using that set. It worked really well for me and the speed of the talons + the healing factor of the armor made a very aggressive playstyle more rewarding. I still had to peak around corners to not Leeroy Jenkins myself, but aside from getting lost in the launch pad area A LOT, I found that set up just perfect.

The claws, on the other hand, do stupid damage and are slower... but they are just so OP.
Nordblut May 29, 2017 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by Tyler McRae:
Originally posted by Neuro:
The talons have a higher damage, by 1 point, and *might* be faster. I never tried using the Firebug-2 after getting the talons. I finished the game using the Metamorphing Talons and Chysalis armor.

On NG+ now, and using Claws of Gestalt.
Do the talons just -not- gain energy? They appear to have no energy gain, according to the stats.

Every weapon gains the base 100% energy. The energy gain stat is just a bonus.
Personally I like that these both weapons are so similar statwise, this way you can choose them by the look that you prefer.
Originally posted by Tyler McRae:
Any reason to use the talons over the Throttle? I can't see a reason, given how stupid strong the throttle is. xD

Fashion?
Ilya May 30, 2017 @ 6:14am 
Doesn't the Claws have a higher proficiency scaling? That would make them better than Firebug Throttle.
Last edited by Ilya; May 30, 2017 @ 6:14am
Ping Pirate May 30, 2017 @ 6:17am 
Psh, Codename: Valkyrie all the way. Can't beat that fashion.
Neunmalklug May 30, 2017 @ 6:25am 
agreed, codename valkyrie is beauty
Burusagi May 30, 2017 @ 6:33am 
Keep in mind that Thrust damage is NOT taken into account for display purposes (i.e the "Damage" number does not take it into account).

Now I don't like Twin Rigged, but it could perhaps be that the Talons have much higher Thrust damage than Firebug?
Originally posted by Vintage Villain:
Psh, Codename: Valkyrie all the way. Can't beat that fashion.
I actually got this on ng++ as I had no idea before, in fact I got it from the non respawning mob. I already had Talons maxed out, and wanting to lvl up a different weapon each cycle, so I've yet to actually sport them, but yeah they look dope
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Date Posted: May 29, 2017 @ 6:53pm
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