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LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 5:01am
Claws of Gestalt vs all other twin rigged (and one handed )
I did a thread comparing two staves , so in this one i want to take a look at claws of Gestalt. So lets start with it's biggest flaw. That being - there are litteraly now flaws.Let me count teh ways.

First of all , it provides you with 20 % energy per hit , which isnt teh highest , but it is a huge enough boost to make it viable for any drone user , or a guy who relies on injectables.

Secondly - it has a fast speed. While it doesnt have the same start up speed on the first swing , the second hit has the speed of the twinrigged , so more often then not you can safely land two hits , rather then one before backing down.

Next is the moveset. It has the super fast poke, found in one handed weapons , and it has the backflip of claw attacks

The very hight profiency scaling + high base damage pretty much beats all other single handed and twin rigged weapons


And the single most rediculous trait of this weapon - you can buff it to a high impact with goliath armour , which esentualy makes this weapon the highest DPS in the game possible. Given the speed and the impact power it is essentually near impossible for enemies to escape the stunlock. Ever. You will stunlock enemies wearing full set of cerberus armour by hitting them in the torso.And you will stunlock them till thay die.all of the time.

Those things are insane, i am not sure there is any point in trying to find strenghs and weakneses of all other twin rigged weapons , by the virtue of this thing very likely beaing the best weapon in the game amongst all types.
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Deatonis May 21, 2017 @ 5:08am 
Interesting.
Masada May 21, 2017 @ 5:15am 
I just pickd these up, will be interesting to see how good they actually are. Been a fan of the Firebug Throttle V2 since I got them.
Burusagi May 21, 2017 @ 5:18am 
Well, it is a single-player game with no competitive aspects whatsoever.

Just don't use them? I agree that they are overpowered as all hell but... you can just not use them.
LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 5:44am 
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Well, it is a single-player game with no competitive aspects whatsoever.

Just don't use them? I agree that they are overpowered as all hell but... you can just not use them.

This is not the point here. I am not saying thay are bad , i am just saying why thay are so good. There is no need to fix any of this.

Dis thread is not about good or bad. It is to observe and reflect.
Burusagi May 21, 2017 @ 5:45am 
Yes, and my "reflection" is that if you think they are so good they outclass everything, just don't use 'em.
LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 5:48am 
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Yes, and my "reflection" is that if you think they are so good they outclass everything, just don't use 'em.

You clearly don't get this . This is for people intherested in how and why , this is not about use it or not use it

Burusagi May 21, 2017 @ 5:49am 
Originally posted by Aku:
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Yes, and my "reflection" is that if you think they are so good they outclass everything, just don't use 'em.

You clearly don't get this . This is for people intherested in how and why , this is not about use it or not use it

Then why does your post read like you're just whining about the weapon being overpowered?

I really don't get you, man.
LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Originally posted by Aku:

You clearly don't get this . This is for people intherested in how and why , this is not about use it or not use it

Then why does your post read like you're just whining about the weapon being overpowered?

I really don't get you, man.

See , that is becouse you are a fanboy who sees everything as an attack on the game you like , despie the fact that this thread has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself , but rather about mechanics.

I don't want you to get me tbh , i ve seen you around the threads , and i can say i have no interest in what you have to say about anything becouse you belive in the fact that this game is somehow imune to criticism and being disliked , and to prove your point you just attack the guy who posts the thread , which leads me to belive that you are either a very deducated troll , not a good one , but i can respect your tenacity in that case , or you are just a fanboy. In the second case i haev absolutely no interest in your opinion.
Burusagi May 21, 2017 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Aku:
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:

Then why does your post read like you're just whining about the weapon being overpowered?

I really don't get you, man.

See , that is becouse you are a fanboy who sees everything as an attack on the game you like , despie the fact that this thread has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself , but rather about mechanics.

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about? I even fukken agreed with you on the claws.

You're a fukken moron, dude.
LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 5:57am 
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Originally posted by Aku:

See , that is becouse you are a fanboy who sees everything as an attack on the game you like , despie the fact that this thread has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself , but rather about mechanics.

What the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about? I even fukken agreed with you on the claws.

You're a fukken moron, dude.

No , the only moron here is you.
Burusagi May 21, 2017 @ 5:59am 
Says the guy who got mad at the game because he is too stupid to get the ending.

I'm out.

/Unsub.
LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 6:01am 
Originally posted by Alcohol Fueled Brewtality:
Says the guy who got mad at the game because he is too stupid to get the ending.

I'm out.

/Unsub.

Thank god , i hope you ll never coment on any of my threads from now on.
LitteralFish May 21, 2017 @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by Masada:
I just pickd these up, will be interesting to see how good they actually are. Been a fan of the Firebug Throttle V2 since I got them.

Firebug throttle seems like the second best option . With 5 % energy gain you can still rack up that energy with great speed , plus the elemental damage is nice , and from what it seems to me at least , it always staggers enemies on that burst backflip move.
Freya Crescent May 21, 2017 @ 6:12am 
The bellicosity on Steam Discussions never ceases to amaze me.
Order May 21, 2017 @ 6:15am 
The "Claw of the Gestalt" actually, from the looks of it, is a Combination of a single Sword and a Twin Rigged Claw on the other Hand. Thats why it has so much Damage Potential AND is so bloody fast. Yep its overpowerd. But then again again you actually managed to kill the last Boss for it so it should feel "powerful". So i dont mind that, still going on the NG+ with the "Plasma Axe" just to kill my Enemys with its badass Energy Wave it sends out x)
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