Stealing "luck" terrible vs original game

[xyrkies]

I don't know what I'm doing different this time around, but when I played the original game I damn sure never had to use the steal command on a boss for damn near a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hour and still not get the final item from the boss. Wtf is even the point of the bandit ability in this game?

[spacefarergames]

Stealing in FF9 has always been pretty tricky for me, but I definately see a difficulty ramp in this new version. However there is a light at the end of the tunnel with the Bandit ability, it does highly improve the success rate. When you get a accessory for that ability definately learn it early on, saves with the headaches.

[76561198040940018]

RNG is RNG.
Also, you are extremely lucky if you managed to steal the 1/256 items in the PS1 version, unless you are talking about {LINK REMOVED}them...in which case, I would ignore these, and finish the boss without stealing them.

[sevenheavens]

welcome to rng, more news at 11

[barackobonga]

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Steal
Works like this. When you are missing with the bandit skill, you are attempting to steal from an empty item slot otherwise bandit gives you a 100 percent steal rate for common items. Combine it with master thief skill to avoid this.

[HippeusOmega]

Yeah i've always found stealing a bit frustating with Zidane till I get Bandit and Master Thief.

[hjalsayegh]

can someone remind me again of how to get Bandit and Master Thief? it's been 15 years since I played this game and I had forgotten how frustrating thieving can be

[Berioth]

Originally posted by hjalsayegh:

can someone remind me again of how to get Bandit and Master Thief? it's been 15 years since I played this game and I had forgotten how frustrating thieving can be

You can get bandit as early as the walrus boss in ice cavern, but you gotta steal the mythril dagger from it, which can take a few tries, very worth it tho, makes stealing everything else much easier.

[barackobonga]

mythril daggers(bandit) and thief gloves(master thief)

[hjalsayegh]

I MISSED ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

someone tell me that dagger shows up later too...

[ValhallasAshes]

The bosses health also plays a factor on your steal chance. Bring the bosses health down as low as possible without killing him to increase your steal success chance.

[Krakatoa]

Originally posted by hjalsayegh:

I MISSED ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

someone tell me that dagger shows up later too...

You can buy Mythril Daggers in Lindblum.

[hjalsayegh]

oh I just got there and saved in the castle! so I'll run and grab one! thank you :D

Originally posted by ValhallasAshes:

The bosses health also plays a factor on your steal chance. Bring the bosses health down as low as possible without killing him to increase your steal success chance.

hmmmmm but aren't the odds against you according to the chart (1/200+)?
I've always loved thieves but I keep forgetting how frustrating it is to have that in a game ^^;

[ValhallasAshes]

Originally posted by hjalsayegh:

oh I just got there and saved in the castle! so I'll run and grab one! thank you :D

Originally posted by ValhallasAshes:

The bosses health also plays a factor on your steal chance. Bring the bosses health down as low as possible without killing him to increase your steal success chance.

hmmmmm but aren't the odds against you according to the chart (1/200+)?
I've always loved thieves but I keep forgetting how frustrating it is to have that in a game ^^;

It was something I remembered was a factor in FFVIII, so I used it in FFIX. Now it might be entirely subjective on my part, but in my experience, I have pretty consistently found it much easier to steal items from foes when their health is low. But I could be wrong so, fair warning.

[Mew Mew]

Either you got really lucky in the past or you're remembering things wrong. I haven't played this version yet to compare, but I know I sometimes had a hell of a time stealing items from bosses. Some runs I'd get lucky and get all of them from Waltz 1 and the ice monster thing pretty quickly. Other times it would take FOREVER to get the last item from one of them as I'm getting my butt kicked bad in an effort to not knock either out before obtaining said item.

[barackobonga]

Originally posted by ValhallasAshes:

The bosses health also plays a factor on your steal chance. Bring the bosses health down as low as possible without killing him to increase your steal success chance.

I don't know if this is true. If you are having trouble try the tent trick: throwing a tent on bosses gives a chance for random debuffs. Or you can cast your own debuffs if you want to not waste tents. Keep your health high and use skills like protect or mighty guard. Then just steal away.